Bayer insecticide as a coral dip

[watchguy123]

I wonder whether most of prophylactic effect of the described dipping process is simply due to removal of the base? I suspect that most nasties are removed with the base and subsequent visual inspection of the coelenterate's tissue. Do you folks see things actually fall off the dipped tissue?

If I see anything that looks like a bite or pest, I throw out the frag. Removing the frag plug is indeed prophylactic because it's difficult to visualize pests/eggs in nooks or crannies.

I find the dip is so opaque with Bayer that I don't really see anything in the liquid.

 

[najer]

English person here, I didn't read all 13 pages, read page 1 and skipped.
Did you find the safety data sheet for whatever the active ingredient is?

If I skipped that then sorry, I use a supermarket antibacterial fluid called Dettol, followed a similar thread to this a few years ago and then did some reading.
The ridiculously small bottle of "coral dip" over here is like£10 or so, a litre bottle (about a pint) of the supermarket stuff is about £2, not used the "coral dip for years!

Great thread.

 

[redfishbluefish]

English person here, I didn't read all 13 pages, read page 1 and skipped.
Did you find the safety data sheet for whatever the active ingredient is?

If I skipped that then sorry, I use a supermarket antibacterial fluid called Dettol, followed a similar thread to this a few years ago and then did some reading.
The ridiculously small bottle of "coral dip" over here is like£10 or so, a litre bottle (about a pint) of the supermarket stuff is about £2, not used the "coral dip for years!

Great thread.

The two active ingredients are Cyfluthrin and Imidacloprid. In layman's terms, these are now chemically produced derivatives of a tobacco tea and chrysanthemum flower extract.....with a history here in the States of over a 100 years. A number of DIY insecticides have you make your own tobacco tea to kill bugs in your garden.

HERE is the MSDS. Note that this a a concentrate and needs to be diluted. I dilute 1 ml of Bayer for each 100 mls of tank water...typically make 300 mls for 1 to 5 frags, but others have used stronger dilutions. I had a thread going on dilutions used....when I find it, I'll edit it in here.


EDIT TO ADD

HERE is the thread on concentrations used by various forum members. Summary can be found in posts #25 and #35 on page 2.

 

[najer]

The two active ingredients are Cyfluthrin and Imidacloprid. In layman's terms, these are now chemically produced derivatives of a tobacco tea and chrysanthemum flower extract.....with a history here in the States of over a 100 years. A number of DIY insecticides have you make your own tobacco tea to kill bugs in your garden.

HERE is the MSDS. Note that this a a concentrate and needs to be diluted. I dilute 1 ml of Bayer for each 100 mls of tank water...typically make 300 mls for 1 to 5 frags, but others have used stronger dilutions. I had a thread going on dilutions used....when I find it, I'll edit it in here.


EDIT TO ADD

HERE is the thread on concentrations used by various forum members. Summary can be found in posts #25 and #35 on page 2.

I will take a look, sounds great, that is why I am trying to switch UK types to dettol.

 

[Cali9dub]

Does everyone always remove the plug and reattach to new plugs or are most just dipping as you got the frags and leaving them on their existing plugs ??

 

[ritter6788]

Does everyone always remove the plug and reattach to new plugs or are most just dipping as you got the frags and leaving them on their existing plugs ??

I remove the plug. That's prime territory for eggs to be attached.

 

[Cali9dub]

Dang it. I have 5 frags coming. Thought I had plugs but only found one

 

[ReeferNoob77]

break up a rock and use the rock pieces to glue it on it blends into your tank better that way.

 

[redfishbluefish]

Agree with @ritter6788 . But the other reason you remove the plug (unless it's plastic), is because any dip will absorb into the plug and then slowly release into your tank. So re-glue to a fresh plug or rock or directly into your tank.

 

[Cali9dub]

Agree with @ritter6788 . But the other reason you remove the plug (unless it's plastic), is because any dip will absorb into the plug and then slowly release into your tank. So re-glue to a fresh plug or rock or directly into your tank.

Ahhh. Got it ! Don't want that !

 

[Cali9dub]

Just finished using bayer for the first time. Mille, and Digi have polyps opened and happy. 2 goni's aren't too happy yet and Monti Cap??? Can't tell yet. Tiny chip frag can't see the polyps. All in all I'd say it was a success. 10ml of bayer to 2 cups of water (1/2 fresh made 1/2 tank water).
5 -7 minute soak...attached to new base and into clean water for 5-7 then another clean water bath for 5-7 (shaken and turkey basted in each one) then out of the third into a 4th for a shake before dropping in the tank. Lots of stuff came off not sure what was detritus and what was alive, but it's off now! Lol.

 

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[Cali9dub]

Since everyone likes pics. These are all the frags about 15 minutes after the dip. Goni's aren't too happy but everything else looks good so far !

 

[FDAWG]

@watchguy123 Question. Do you always cut the base off a new frag? What if the frag is well encrusted and nubs are starting to shoot out? Do you prefer fresh cuts versus mounted aged frags?

 

[Cali9dub]

I cut the frags off the plugs before dipping in Bayer then mount to new plugs in between the second and third fresh saltwater wash.

 

[jasert39]

I hate digging up old threads but seemed appropriate. Purchasing a few larger colonies (mostly zoas, rics and a pollcipora) from a guy breaking down his tank. I therefore cannot remove everything from the rocks they are growing on...safe to dip larger rocks/colonies in bayer?