Bean Animal wont Fit, HELP...

[Mayacan]

I have a Fiji Cube 1200 GPH Overflow box. I purchased 2 schedule 80 street elbows and 2 regular 90 degree elbows. when i insert them into the overflow box, they don't fit, one impedes the other from inserting (by a little). Should I not be using schedule 80 for this and use schedule 40? I thought only difference was wall thickness, but overall dimensions of fittings was same, maybe I'm wrong. Someone please let me know if I need to use schedule 40 to achieve what I want. Below is a representation of what i am looking to do. (this is another users setup, and i think the overflow box is same as mine)

 

[Saltyreef]

Some people omit the U's and some people use the midde as the emergency drain.

If i were you id try to configure the middle as the E-drain so you can use the home made U tubes.

My synergy overflow came with custom U tubes and they fit side by side. But theyre lower profile.

You could also shave some wall off the fitting so it fits next to the downpipe better.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Get rid of the 'U'at a minimum for the main. The make flat drain covers that will fit that if you want some kind of covering or just go with nothing. For your secondary you could also use a sweeper type 'U' which has a bit smaller profile and then orient it over the main if needed or again, try going without. You don't need to glue any of this stuff together so you can try a few things without any loss.

 

[fishface NJ]

put the emergency in the middle

 

[RobB'z Reef]

put the emergency in the middle

That too

 

[Mayacan]

That too

it still does not fit with the emergency line in the middle

 

[Mayacan]

Get rid of the 'U'at a minimum for the main. The make flat drain covers that will fit that if you want some kind of covering or just go with nothing. For your secondary you could also use a sweeper type 'U' which has a bit smaller profile and then orient it over the main if needed or again, try going without. You don't need to glue any of this stuff together so you can try a few things without any loss.

Are you saying use a strainer for the main drain? What is a sweeper type "U", never heard of those.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Are you saying use a strainer for the main drain? What is a sweeper type "U", never heard of those.

Yes strainer! There's also a flat version.

Low Profile Bulkhead Overflow Strainers

Low profile strainer that extends fractions of an inch past the bulkhead itself. Prevents fish, snails, and other tank inhabitants from getting sucked into your plumbing, sump or pump and subsequent damage. Slip Low Profile Strainer - Used to slip inside of a slip bulkhead Thread Low Profile...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

The sweep I am taking about are typically used for drains so they are thinner. So in this example you buy an end cap, drill that for your air hole and add a 90 to the side piece. Overall it's a smaller profile.

Example

https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/pvc-pipe-fittings/nibco-reg-pvc-sanitary-tee-dwv/k09870c/p-1444449199654-c-8571.htm?tid=7540821386999255333&ipos=11

 

[Mayacan]

Yes strainer! There's also a flat version.

Low Profile Bulkhead Overflow Strainers

Low profile strainer that extends fractions of an inch past the bulkhead itself. Prevents fish, snails, and other tank inhabitants from getting sucked into your plumbing, sump or pump and subsequent damage. Slip Low Profile Strainer - Used to slip inside of a slip bulkhead Thread Low Profile...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

The sweep I am taking about are typically used for drains so they are thinner. So in this example you buy an end cap, drill that for your air hole and add a 90 to the side piece. Overall it's a smaller profile.

Example

https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/pvc-pipe-fittings/nibco-reg-pvc-sanitary-tee-dwv/k09870c/p-1444449199654-c-8571.htm?tid=7540821386999255333&ipos=11

ok, I see what you are saying. I saw the flat strainer, looks good in theory, but I've been reading reviews on it and says it really restricts flow. as for the sweep, couldn't I also get away with buying a "T" and putting an elbow on the side of it, don't know if the profile will be smaller, but I've seen that done in past.

What happens if i just leave the main drain wide open at bulkhead, then put 2 elbow solution above it for secondary. will it probably make a lot of noise?

 

[RobB'z Reef]

ok, I see what you are saying. I saw the flat strainer, looks good in theory, but I've been reading reviews on it and says it really restricts flow. as for the sweep, couldn't I also get away with buying a "T" and putting an elbow on the side of it, don't know if the profile will be smaller, but I've seen that done in past.

What happens if i just leave the main drain wide open at bulkhead, then put 2 elbow solution above it for secondary. will it probably make a lot of noise?

You can leave your main wide open. It's supposed to be under full suction anyhow. I use the taller strainer you first posted and it works great. If you really need the lower profile and a strainer you can always open it up a bit with a Dremel. I think you can solve this. Just a fun puzzle is all

 

[Mayacan]

You can leave your main wide open. It's supposed to be under full suction anyhow. I use the taller strainer you first posted and it works great. If you really need the lower profile and a strainer you can always open it up a bit with a Dremel. I think you can solve this. Just a fun puzzle is all

I'm not opposed to leaving main drain wide open, I was just wondering if it would make noise if I do. the flat strainer is a good idea, but I cant find anyone that has a slip 1" in inventory. thanks for all your advice.

 

[air_run]

It will not make any noise. Though I have a little more room, here's mine for reference with a strainer. Works great!

 

[Mayacan]

It will not make any noise. Though I have a little more room, here's mine for reference with a strainer. Works great!

Ok, so i can do it this way, but just not put the strainer on right side. One thing, i would not think your secondary line had to be so high, any reason why yours is so high?

 

[KStatefan]

The secondary is what sets the water level in the overflow if it is low the will be more noise

 

[air_run]

Ok, so i can do it this way, but just not put the strainer on right side. One thing, i would not think your secondary line had to be so high, any reason why yours is so high?

No reason really. It's just where I had it initially when I set up the tank. I glued the top part and I found if I needed to lower it, it would be easier to cut it down if needed rather than rebuild it. It works where it's at so I never messed with it.

 

[Mayacan]

General question... did you glue in all your drains leading into the sump at the bulkhead? because I don't have them glued right now, don't think I need to glue them as the water pressure is going in line with the drain into the sump. I assume you did glue your pipe into the bulkhead leaving from your return pump? Let me know if you need pics to show exactly where I'm talking about.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

I didn't glue anything internal to the overflow box

 

[KStatefan]

General question... did you glue in all your drains leading into the sump at the bulkhead? because I don't have them glued right now, don't think I need to glue them as the water pressure is going in line with the drain into the sump. I assume you did glue your pipe into the bulkhead leaving from your return pump? Let me know if you need pics to show exactly where I'm talking about.

Glue all your pvc that is not contained in the tank, sump or overflow.

 

[Mayacan]

I didn't glue anything internal to the overflow box

No, i dont mean to the overflow box, i dont glue anything internal there, that i know, i mean drains leading to sump, and at sump bulkhead. Do any of you glue these shown in pictures below. First pic is 3 drains (blue), main, secondary and emergency, second pic is return line (white) coming from return pump.

Glue all your pvc that is not contained in the tank, sump or overflow.

Ok, so that a no to gluing the drains, or are the drains not "contained" in the sump?

Since water is flowing into sump, I don't see how this would leak at bulkhead if I don't glue. Now the return pump is another thing, because water flow is exiting sump at that point, so there I would assume I should glue. Sorry if I am being naïve here, just want to get it right and make sure i understood your comment.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Glue everything between the box and your pump