Best of these 3 pumps?

[AdamNC]

So with a Somatic 60s sump and a 40 gallon breeder tank, which of these pumps would suit me the best? The stand I'm going to build will be a standard 30" tall.

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/sicce-syncra-silent-2-0-pump-568-gph.html

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/sicce-syncra-pro-550-gph.html

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/quiet-one-pro-series-2200-594-gph-lifegard.html

I've read the Lifegard is made by Sicce, so why the price difference? What makes one cheaper than the others? I'm also going to be using 2 MP40s for flow so do I even need a return pump at 500gph+?

 

[jsker]

Just a suggestion, why not a DC pump? DC pumps are very quite and can also be regulated for speed/GPH

 

[AdamNC]

Not too worried about ac or dc pumps but the Pro series ones are adjustable with a dial. Just doing some research and these came up. Not to mention I don't feel I need to spend $200+ on a return pump.

 

[McArcher]

The price difference is quality.
I have a quiet one and it is about as far from being quiet as you can get.

 

[KStatefan]

Not too worried about ac or dc pumps but the Pro series ones are adjustable with a dial. Just doing some research and these came up. Not to mention I don't feel I need to spend $200+ on a return pump.

You can adjust with a valve on the output side also.

 

[nautical_nathaniel]

I've always heard good things about the Sicce Synchra Silent pumps, I think the other two can be a bit noisy if you don't position them correctly in the sump. I personally considered getting one of the smaller Synchra Silent pumps for my aquarium but went for the Jebao DC-2000 (now DCS-2000) pump instead for the cost savings and DC controllability.

 

[mfinn]

I'd go with the Sicce 2.0.
Very solid pump

 

[aabjones888]

I have used the 2200 quiet one pump for like 3 years with no problems at all. It can be loud if sitting up agains the side of my sump, but other than that a solid
Pump. But I use a sincce on my ca reactor and have zero problems after its first year so I don't think You can go wrong.

 

[AdamNC]

Ok after talking with the stay at home wife/mother she said as silent as possible of the 3. So I just ordered the Sicce Syncra Silent 2.0 pump. Thanks for the advice guys.

 

[mcarroll]

Eek. The Syncra Pro is their most quiet.....same design as the Quiet One.....2200 would have gotten my vote, but I'm too late! Noooooooooooooooo! ;Sorry

 

[mcarroll]

(Quiet One's used to be made by Sicce but are now made in China. Same design, same warranty. From-China price! And they really are q u i e t.)

 

[ca1ore]

..... And before that Grundfos ..... Silent, though not long lived and debatably salt water safe.

 

[ksed]

(Quiet One's used to be made by Sicce but are now made in China. Same design, same warranty. From-China price! And they really are q u i e t.)

Yes correct but Sicce designed their own impeller and I believe they use neodymium magnets vs ferrite in the quiet one.
What’s interesting is that the Quiet one is not getting the same reviews as the Sicce pro. I believe that has to do with the impeller design.

 

[ksed]

I have used the 2200 quiet one pump for like 3 years with no problems at all. It can be loud if sitting up agains the side of my sump, but other than that a solid
Pump. But I use a sincce on my ca reactor and have zero problems after its first year so I don't think You can go wrong.

Just put them on a silicone place mat.

 

[mcarroll]

Yes correct but Sicce designed their own impeller and I believe they use neodymium magnets vs ferrite in the quiet one.
What’s interesting is that the Quiet one is not getting the same reviews as the Sicce pro. I believe that has to do with the impeller design.

Interesting! I've never heard that. (So much hear-say – I like it, but where does it all come from???) Even if so I don't think it amounts to a performance difference. I think the flow curves for their respectively comparable models match. (Don't they?)

I know QO did switch at some point to using one-piece impeller/magnet/shaft's where my old impellers were more typical half-plastic, half-magnet with a separate shaft. It could be that they did this due to the presence of neodymium (which corrodes badly in saltwater) – but I don't know. Since they're being made in China where Nd is cheap(er) and prevalent, I guess that sorta raises the likelihood at least a little bit, but doesn't really tell us. Not sure one way or the other on the Sicce impellers in this respect.

 

[ksed]

@mcarroll After some investigating the Quiet one pro now use neodymium as well.
Smaller models use ferrite, same with Sicce.

 

[bblumberg]

So with a Somatic 60s sump and a 40 gallon breeder tank, which of these pumps would suit me the best? The stand I'm going to build will be a standard 30" tall.

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/sicce-syncra-silent-2-0-pump-568-gph.html

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/sicce-syncra-pro-550-gph.html

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/quiet-one-pro-series-2200-594-gph-lifegard.html

I've read the Lifegard is made by Sicce, so why the price difference? What makes one cheaper than the others? I'm also going to be using 2 MP40s for flow so do I even need a return pump at 500gph+?

For pumps at that flow level, I'd consider Eheim 1260. Quiet and last almost forever.

Bruce

 

[mcarroll]

@mcarroll After some investigating the Quiet one pro now use neodymium as well.
Smaller models use ferrite, same with Sicce.

Seriously, where does this info come from??

 

[ksed]

Seriously, where does this info come from??

I would post pictures but then there would a ton of them. All I did was google search QO replacement impeller and did the same for the Sicce and you will see the smaller models will have ferrite and larger models are neodymium , the same goes for the syncras. What’s interesting is that the normal syncras impeller packaging also says for Sicce pro model xxxx as well