Bigger is NOT always better: Skimmer Edition

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Let's name and talk about some skimmers that aren't necessarily the biggest or the most expensive but do the job for which they are rated for.

Please share your experience.

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Well the SRO probably fit that question. I have several skimmers and just moved forward with the SRO 2000 for a couple of frag tanks. Nothing but coral in them and it pulls out as much gunk as all my other skimmers. The bubble blaster pumps are great.
 
I second that one...I have run a SRO 3000SSS and its fantastic. That combined with the neck cleaner and an Avast Skimmate locker and my skimmer is perfect.
 
Ok good info I will add that brand to the first post.
 
I like my ASM G3 without any mods. Pulls out a lot of gunk. I had higher end skimmers and this works amazingly for the price. If I were to replace it, and only if it broke somehow, I would buy an ASM G4. Only because of the size of my system but the G3 is doing the job without a problem.
 
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I like my ReeFlo Orca 250,coupled with a DIY Avast skimmate superlocker (hopefully some day the Avast neck swab will be added too)....it's not the most energy efficient skimmer on the market but it does a great job with my system (450g total water volume)
 
I like my ASM G3 without any mods. Pulls out a lot of gunk. I had higher end skimmers and this works amazingly for the price. If I were to replace it, and only if it broke somehow, I would buy an ASM G4. Only because of the size of my system but the G3 is doing the job without a problem.

+1 I love my ASM G3. Cheap, works great, and extremely easy to setup and get going.
 
+1 I love my ASM G3. Cheap, works great, and extremely easy to setup and get going.

the ASM skimmer have good track record from what reviews I've read too,everybody that I know that runs an ASM have nothing but good words to say about theirs...I strongly considered the G5 for my tank and would have gotten it but ran across the Orca for a price I couldn't pass up
 
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In my estimation, there are few if any bad skimmers left on the market. This means that almost no matter what you decide on, the skimmer you bring home will skim.

"To skim" as we've come to understand, means the removal of around 30% of organic material we add into the tank in the form of food and some additives. Sadly, there is no magic involved.

What this means to Revhtree's thread is that no matter how much you spend, your skimmer is still going to play by the same rules of physics and at most achieve around this level of performance.

Having said that, it seems there's a dizzying array of skimmer choices on the market and a decision can be hard to make!

YMMV, of course, but here's how I'd recommend deciding:

First, consider history. All our commercially made skimmers originate in a design from Germany. Our needle-wheels are only a significant evolution (also from Germany) of these designs. Since then, there have been some innovations here in the US - predominantly downdraft and spray injection by AETech and Aqua-C.

That history, in fact, is a pretty accurate summary of what's on the market today. Of the US makers, Lifereef still has an excellent Venturi skimmer (any others?). AETech and Aqua-C are still both around with their air-mixing technology and have solid options which both allow you to choose what pump you want to run. Tank already overheated? Use something more efficient (and more expensive). No heat issues? Get the most durable pump. (Etc.) Euro-Reef (now Reef Dynamics) are the ones who brought the needle-wheel+volute induction to the US and have very consistently offered awesome, well-designed skimmers (highly effective, easy to set up and maintain) for pretty much every size of tank. These days they even make nano-size skimmers. As mentioned, there are a lot of good skimmers on the market, but these guys are (what's left of) where it started here in the US and collectively they still make an excellent place to start your skimmer search. After these guys you have every skimmer copyist that's come along the pike - some literally making identical copies in China from a molding of one of the above maker's skimmers, some using weird shapes and pretty colors to differentiate. Personally I recommend supporting someone in the US that's actually doing R&D and manufacturing here just because I/we live here in the US. If that's too pricey for you to consider, I'd suggest to either use a savings plan (old-fashioned, I know) or buy used. Both are good options!

The biggest secondary factors to consider in my opinion are ease of maintenance and how quickly the skimmer fouls its reaction chamber with "Skimmy Peanut Butter". (Mmmmm!) The worst skimmers in this regard are going to kill their own performance more quickly by fouling the reaction chamber/neck, and they're going to make things worse by making it hard/time-consuming to do the required cleaning. (Note: If you find snails and stuff living in your Skimmy, it's past time for a cleaning! LOL) The best skimmers account for these things and are easy to disassemble and require less frequent cleanings in the first place. With this stuff in mind I can say that in-sump is better than external; slip fit is better than thumb screws and wet skimming is better than dry skimming. (Indeed, wet skimming can make all skimmers better in this regard. And not that external skimmers with thumb-screws are bad, just that they wouldn't be my first choice!)

There are lots of good skimmers on the market and maybe even zero that are "bad", as I said at the beginning. If you "buy with your head" it's actually pretty hard to go wrong. :)

-Matt
 
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I had a bubble magus nac7 (for sale in the drystock forum) it was great on my 94 gallon i was amazed at the thick mucus it collected.

Im in the process of breaking in my etss xr700 for my 300 gallon. I am impressd with the quantity of bubbles it creates the neck is full of milky areated water way more than i ever have seen for in sump skimmers. This is a downdraft style. I jave read that it can increase orp anyone else know of this?
 
In my estimation, there are few if any bad skimmers left on the market. This means that almost no matter what you decide on, the skimmer you bring home will skim.

"To skim" as we've come to understand, means the removal of around 30% of organic material we add into the tank in the form of food and some additives. Sadly, there is no magic involved.

What this means to Revhtree's thread is that no matter how much you spend, your skimmer is still going to play by the same rules of physics and at most achieve around this level of performance.

Having said that, it seems there's a dizzying array of skimmer choices on the market and a decision can be hard to make!

YMMV, of course, but here's how I'd recommend deciding:

First, consider history. All our commercially made skimmers originate in a design from Germany. Our needle-wheels are only a significant evolution (also from Germany) of these designs. Since then, there have been some innovations here in the US - predominantly downdraft and spray injection by AETech and Aqua-C.

That history, in fact, is a pretty accurate summary of what's on the market today. Of the US makers, Lifereef still has an excellent Venturi skimmer (any others?). AETech and Aqua-C are still both around with their air-mixing technology and have solid options which both allow you to choose what pump you want to run. Tank already overheated? Use something more efficient (and more expensive). No heat issues? Get the most durable pump. (Etc.) Euro-Reef (now Reef Dynamics) are the ones who brought the needle-wheel+volute induction to the US and have very consistently offered awesome, well-designed skimmers (highly effective, easy to set up and maintain) for pretty much every size of tank. These days they even make nano-size skimmers. As mentioned, there are a lot of good skimmers on the market, but these guys are (what's left of) where it started here in the US and collectively they still make an excellent place to start your skimmer search. After these guys you have every skimmer copyist that's come along the pike - some literally making identical copies in China from a molding of one of the above maker's skimmers, some using weird shapes and pretty colors to differentiate. Personally I recommend supporting someone in the US that's actually doing R&D and manufacturing here just because I/we live here in the US. If that's too pricey for you to consider, I'd suggest to either use a savings plan (old-fashioned, I know) or buy used. Both are good options!

The biggest secondary factors to consider in my opinion are ease of maintenance and how quickly the skimmer fouls its reaction chamber with "Skimmy Peanut Butter". (Mmmmm!) The worst skimmers in this regard are going to kill their own performance more quickly by fouling the reaction chamber/neck, and they're going to make things worse by making it hard/time-consuming to do the required cleaning. (Note: If you find snails and stuff living in your Skimmy, it's past time for a cleaning! LOL) The best skimmers account for these things and are easy to disassemble and require less frequent cleanings in the first place. With this stuff in mind I can say that in-sump is better than external; slip fit is better than thumb screws and wet skimming is better than dry skimming. (Indeed, wet skimming can make all skimmers better in this regard. And not that external skimmers with thumb-screws are bad, just that they wouldn't be my first choice!)

There are lots of good skimmers on the market and maybe even zero that are "bad", as I said at the beginning. If you "buy with your head" it's actually pretty hard to go wrong. :)

-Matt

well said,all excellent points......I absolutely agree with the thumb screws being a pain,that is the one thing I hate about my skimmer but I love that it is an external skimmer in that it doesn't take up valuable sump space
 

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