Bio pellets, gfo and activated carbon?

[Ivandrago]

This is not what I read. I have several of my friends that are running the all in one there water is 0 phosphate and 0 nitrate , they don't run any other rectors. Plus this is a relitevly new product that came out not long ago they spend 4 years developing it so I'm pretty sure it's not releasing gfo into the tank. The biopelets get eaten up all you need to do is top off the biopelets

 

[abinder]

This is not what I read. I have several of my friends that are running the all in one there water is 0 phosphate and 0 nitrate , they don't run any other rectors. Plus this is a relitevly new product that came out not long ago they spend 4 years developing it so I'm pretty sure it's not releasing gfo into the tank. The biopelets get eaten up all you need to do is top off the biopelets

I've been thinking about trying these. What brand have your friends been using?

Any info is welcome.


Allen

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

This is not what I read. I have several of my friends that are running the all in one there water is 0 phosphate and 0 nitrate , they don't run any other rectors. Plus this is a relitevly new product that came out not long ago they spend 4 years developing it so I'm pretty sure it's not releasing gfo into the tank. The biopelets get eaten up all you need to do is top off the biopelets

What did you read?

Regardless, that is what I believe the product is and how it works. It has some form of binder in the plastic (their ads say that), and it is likely iron and likely GFO.

You just do not see the bound phosphate in the tank as it settles out. Some may be skimmed.

 

[Ivandrago]

I've been thinking about trying these. What brand have your friends been using?

Any info is welcome.


Allen

This is the brand they use. I will be switching myself soon just need to deplete my gfo and carbon. Their tank are crystal clear and they are growing ridiculous sps no signs of GFO swimming anywhere. The brand is Reef Interests All-In-One Biopellets. Try it very good , research it the review are great.

 

[Ivandrago]

What did you read?

Regardless, that is what I believe the product is and how it works. It has some form of binder in the plastic (their ads say that), and it is likely iron and likely GFO.

You just do not see the bound phosphate in the tank as it settles out. Some may be skimmed.

OK do what you want man was just giving a friendly suggestion. Just on a side note these aren't made from plastic .

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

OK do what you want man was just giving a friendly suggestion. Just on a side note these aren't made from plastic .

Yes, biopellets are all plastic. All are polyhydroxybutyrate. Some have other things added, such as the All In One or EcoBAK by Warner.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I am curious on what you have read these are. There is loads of misinformation on the internet, hence the need for forums like this one.

This is what the advertisement at BRS says about them:
http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/all-in-one-n-p-reducing-biopellets.html
"What makes the All-in-One BioPellets different from the standard pellets? This is the simple and easy to understand version. What they have managed to do is to combine the NP Reducing BioPellets with the active ingredient of phosphate remover."

From the brown color, I conclude it contains iron, which is the ingredient in GFO rather than aluminum, which is the ingredient in the white binders.

The fact that the precipitated phosphate stays in the tank (unless some is skimmed out; and as with all organic carbon, some is consumed by bacteria) is one of my concerns with this product.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Apparently, the manufacturer of the All In One Biopellets says it contains GFO. They also have some speculative theories about how it works, beyond simply having the GFO bind phosphate and then fall to the bottom of the tank, which seems to me all the explanation that is needed. This was reported by a company that resells it:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2410056&page=4

"Since there seems to be some unanswered questions about the product I have reached out to DVH for a little more clarification on how the product works. Here is what Dennis at DVH had to say...

"The GFO in the pellets is binding PO4 to the pellet so it is removing more PO4 than the standard pellets. The bacteria is utilizing the PO4 for growth and removing NO3. By taking off the PO4, you can replace the PO4 with new PO4 from the system. Next to that, when they eat the carbon, new surface will be exposed so new PO4 can be bond again." "

IMO, everything beyond the first sentence is the speculative part, but obviously the product is GFO in the polymer pellet.

 

[Purpule Tang]

Hi,Randy again.
I have a bio pellet reactor for 2 months ago but yet my nitrate isn't 0 with salifert test kit,it is about 20 ppm why?
Also I using from bubble magus bp 130 reactor.
Hence,my phosphate with salifert kit show zero.
What's my problem?
Thanks

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Hi,Randy again.
I have a bio pellet reactor for 2 months ago but yet my nitrate isn't 0 with salifert test kit,it is about 20 ppm why?
Also I using from bubble magus bp 130 reactor.
Hence,my phosphate with salifert kit show zero.
What's my problem?
Thanks

There could be a variety of reasons: not enough pellets, not the right flow through them, too low of phosphate to allow adequate bacterial growth, inaccurate nitrate testing, etc.

FWIW, easily adjusting the dose is one benefit of soluble organic carbon dosing over biopellets.

 

[Purpule Tang]

There could be a variety of reasons: not enough pellets, not the right flow through them, too low of phosphate to allow adequate bacterial growth, inaccurate nitrate testing, etc.

FWIW, easily adjusting the dose is one benefit of soluble organic carbon dosing over biopellets.

Thanks for your good guidance.
This is my bp reactor.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I don't have any specific advice about it, but are the pellets moving around at all when in use?

 

[Downbeach]

Did you remove the sponges for use with BP's?

 

[Purpule Tang]

Did you remove the sponges for use with BP's?

Yes,I removed sponges and bubble diffuser before use.
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