Thank you.
Yes - here is the info from Biota - this is what they are eating there. As noted above you can always email them for clarity and they will let you know what they are feeding exactly. This also may help with those discussing looks.
I understand the price is high but please remember the amount of effort that breeders are going through to provide these animals. It isn't just provide it is all the IP getting them spawning, or collecting pairs, or collecting things that float to grow, to working with locals and laws and processes to bring these to us. If it wasn't for them we wouldn't have the yellow tang.
If I get something at cost for $100, and I spin around and retail it for 600-700, not sure what you call it, but I believe that to be robbery
If someone is willing to pay 600-700, how is it robbery?
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Biota mentioned about what they couldn’t do this somewhere in this thread but the only thing I remember is that the parent specimens have the potential of having genes of the two variants.
Also pulled from that page....For all of you Regal Angelfish enthusiasts, just wanted to post this here for your perusal. A little something I found regarding what was formerly my all-yellow ~four year old Regal beauty. Link to the source also provided.
“In some variations, the blue and black in the coloration is missing, resulting in a yellow body with white stripes! The anal fin in this variation is white and orange or darker yellow than the body. The upper back of the dorsal fin is missing the blue, and has clear and yellow mottling. One wild and crazy color patterned Regal Angelfish was found in Papua New Guinea, where the white striping looks more like a squiggly road map”
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Our hobby would be much better served if people would do a little research on their questions instead of just asking their friends and then accusing other aquarists of knowingly trying to cheat them based on what their friends told them. Asking your friends what they think is not research.
That’s an older post, the Animal-World. I think it’s from the early 2000s. Copyright is 1998 to 2020. So they’re not aware of the new advances in fish-keeping in the last decade plus. And certainly not aware of captive breeding of Regal Angelfish. But it doesn’t change the fact that they recognized a morph of Regal with an all-yellow body and white stripes. Just like the one that I had. The point I was trying to make is that the fish I sold was not colored in that manner because it was malnutritioned or malformed, as was claimed by the buyer, based on his friends’ thoughts. It is a bonafide morph of that particular fish. Thank you for your input. It allowed me to clarify the point I’m trying to make. Please do not hesitate to post any other concerns or questions you might have. I welcome the challenge. I hope you welcome my response as well.
Amazing the things you uncover when you do a little reading. That would qualify as research.Could it be this simple? Balli just sourced their breeding pair of regals locally because well...they were local?
"Bali Aquarich’s first captive bred regal angelfish is the local grey chested P. d. diacanthus subspecies and the small baby regal angelfish are already showing the unmistakable golden yellow color and the dorsal eyespot is just beginning to become dark. One thing we’re curious to know is the age of these fish as some marine angelfish have extremely long larval duration periods – up to 120 days in debelius if memory serves us correctly, to as little as like 45 days for the Koran angelfish."
Captive Bred Regal Angelfish Breakthrough by Bali Aquarich | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog
The regal angelfish is one of the most iconic of all marine angelfishes and the last genus to be captive bred, until now. If we had to take bets on who would be the first to achieve a breakthrough…reefbuilders.com
I think someone just posted that they source their parent Regals locally. Some research suggested that the gray belly was endemic to the Pacific and the yellow belly to the Red Sea. The two morphs met in the Indian ocean and that’s why some parts of the Indian ocean have both morphs. The research, however was not definitive. An unproven theory. I can post the link if you like.
I’m pretty sure that where biota is located is also where the two subspecies cross over so it would make sense if they were locally sourced as to why they don’t seperate the offspring.
The actual research is there. I challenge you to go find it. I’ll give you a week. If you are unsuccessful, post back here and I’ll give it to you. By the way. The yellow belly lineage of Red Sea Regal Angelfish has been traced back 1.4 million years to the Pleistocene post-glaciation period. Good luck in your scholarly search.@bruno3047, you're making assumptions about genetics that just can't be made without actual research (and even then, tbh). As far as I'm aware, we don't know why different color morphs exist in different areas. Obviously, genetics often plays a role, but that may not be the only contributing factor. A certain color may be more successful in an area, due to issues beyond genetics, which leads to that color being far more common. A certain color could be caused by the unique diet in that area. Do we KNOW that there are no gray bellied regals in the red sea? We know they aren't collected, but does that mean they don't exist, or just that they aren't collected? Especially considering that the yellow bellied ones sell for a higher price? You simply cannot make an assumption on the genetics of a fish, based purely on their appearance. That's not science. Science is doing the research to PROVE a theory, not just making assumptions about it. Don't make me get my scientist friend involved in this....
Side note, did you know that certain colors in certain animals aren't based on genetics at all? White markings in horses are often based on their position in the womb. Cloned horses can have totally different white markings! That's just random information that I find fascinating. Btw, I hope this doesn't come off mean, that's not how I intend it, but I just wanted to explain why it might not be as simple as putting two of the yellow bellied regals together, and getting 100% yellow bellied offspring. And the truth is, I don't know. I haven't tried it. But I can see possibilities that might result in other outcomes.
I'm going to be honest with you. I don't have time. I work a full time job, and I'm in a masters program. Two actually. And pursuing a couple professional certifications, in addition to taking care of my animals, and dealing with a serious injury (that's seriously affecting my sleep). With that said, I would be interested in reading this research, but only if you can manage to share it in a far less patronizing way.
Lol. I’m not going to share it. You can challenge me but I can’t challenge you? Have a nice evening. I hope your injury gets better. I know how that can be from personal experience.I'm going to be honest with you. I don't have time. I work a full time job, and I'm in a masters program. Two actually. And pursuing a couple professional certifications, in addition to taking care of my animals, and dealing with a serious injury (that's seriously affecting my sleep). With that said, I would be interested in reading this research, but only if you can manage to share it in a far less patronizing way.
