Black and white bugs eating birds nest polyps ?

[ying yang]

Hi hope all is well.

Correction green slimer

Long video but pretty much same so only need watch first minute or so to get the idea.


Had this birds nest about 5 weeks now and after a week or so noticed the little black bugs at base of coral and same for few weeks after didnt see on actual coral itself but last 2 nights noticed the black and white bugs hanging on for dear life and seeks like eating the polyps,they curl up like a worm /pod( ones eating the polyps) maybe same as the little black bugs at base of coral but unsure ( but first noticed these black copepod looking bugs when bought a lobo months ago .also the white bugs seem to attack the black bugs but also eat the polyps lol.

Another video of them eating polyps coming soon and thanks .

I've got an idea of what I think they are and what I think there not.

@vetteguy53081 this the thread I'm starting ^_^


Edit " second video showing eating polyps

 

[ying yang]

Video of eating polyps and each other it seems

 

[ying yang]

I'm wondering of the whiter bugs which can see at base of coral and on the pink epoxy are mysis shrimp? Maybe unconnected idk

Be grateful and replies of what could be.
So far doesnt seem like much damage is being done and maybe the black bugs ( if same as at base in first video is what has been in tank for months but definately looks like eating the polyps even though can't see no damage to the polyps, granted birds nest looks whiteish in video but tank lights are out and light on phone shining at it.will show picture now of true colour of birds nest which is a dirty green colour ( you know what I'm calling it a birds nest I mean green slimer lol ) But it's not a neon green slimer under my 2 white t5 and 2 blue t5 bulbs

 

[BanjoBandito]

Bird's nest don't have specific predators to my knowledge like other SPS, and amphipods will eat decaying or dying tissue...so the coral could be dying and nature is taking it's coarse or there's something else going on? Anything else not doing well? Any tank parameter problems or issues?

If they are truly eating it....my guess would be some sort of halacarid mite? Interceptor treatment if that's the case.

(interceptor is pretty rough and will wipe out pretty much all your invert life, big and small though....I think mandarins will eat them?)

 

[ying yang]

Bird's nest don't have specific predators to my knowledge like other SPS, and amphipods will eat decaying or dying tissue...so the coral could be dying and nature is taking it's coarse or there's something else going on? Anything else not doing well? Any tank parameter problems or issues?

If they are truly eating it....my guess would be some sort of halacarid mite? Interceptor treatment if that's the case.

(interceptor is pretty rough and will wipe out pretty much all your invert life, big and small though....I think mandarins will eat edited

Edited first post to correct to green slimer and not birds nest,( what bought as anyway) I did think about just run the mill pods eating it as dying as they can sense it before we can see it kind of thing,it's stayed same colour as when first bought and started to encrust the frag plug more and growing new nubs on it so seems to be doing well.
All corals in tank doing well except 3 torches over last 5 months receded then lost them.

Mag 1290
Can 420
Po4 0.1
No3. 40
Amnonia 0
Ph 8.1
Salinity 1.026
Temp 25 degrees
No other tests

Tank running 9 months if anyone Interested but more of what are they than coral dying as it growing not dying ( so far what I can see anyway )

It's just over half way up in my tank and will break the epoxy it's on soon and move it and will dip it again in my " nt coral labs dip " or maybe buy some coral rx to dip.
But I've it's red or black bugs then I've seen thread after thread having difficulty in removing them so maybe have to live with for time being as dont fancy nuking tank as new reefer at 9 months so be scared that I disrupt everything that seeks to be going great these last 9 months except 3 torches

@Mibu you think they eating the polyps?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ahh yes, those night mare bugs that feed on coral tissue and take them all down.
Inteceptor dog pills and Dr G's are the best ammunition for them. Dips knock a few down but soon they are back in numbers.

 

[ying yang]

Ahh yes, those night mare bugs that feed on coral tissue and take them all down.
Inteceptor dog pills and Dr G's are the best ammunition for them. Dips knock a few down but soon they are back in numbers.

Ok thanks for reply .

I've read a few threads with little bugs similar to mine here and tried numerous dips and instant treatments but didn't eradicaticate them and ended up resetting tank,and also some where was successful but killed all pods,worms etc.

I'm little reluctant to treat tank with anything incase get adverse affects and tank running so smoothly ,and no ovbious signs if damage to coral as of yet and would be scared if treated tank and eradicated them but as no qt tank set up then could just re-introduce them and would be gutted so thanks for 2 options to treat,now I've got the names it's an option if corals start to deteriorate then need to treat them buy then going have buy decent light for a coral qt tank and qt all corals thereafter I guess and tank needs lots of corals yet.

So thanks for advice vetteguy,much appreciated indeed ^_^

 

[ying yang]

Bird's nest don't have specific predators to my knowledge like other SPS, and amphipods will eat decaying or dying tissue...so the coral could be dying and nature is taking it's coarse or there's something else going on? Anything else not doing well? Any tank parameter problems or issues?

If they are truly eating it....my guess would be some sort of halacarid mite? Interceptor treatment if that's the case.

(interceptor is pretty rough and will wipe out pretty much all your invert life, big and small though....I think mandarins will eat them?)

Thanks fir reply and suggestion of mandarin.
I've got 2 spots available for fish I. My tank and wouldn't mind a red scooter blenny,you think these eat same kind thing as mandarins?

 

[BanjoBandito]

Thanks fir reply and suggestion of mandarin.
I've got 2 spots available for fish I. My tank and wouldn't mind a red scooter blenny,you think these eat same kind thing as mandarins?

Should.

 

[ying yang]

Ok great thanks,I may buy one or even a pair of them and see if can get them to pair or maybe some already paired.

Thanks again ^_^

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

I’ve never had any adverse reactions from dr G’s or interceptor. Used them both several times on my tank filled with many thousand dollars worth of coral and wouldn’t think twice about using them again. Pipefish, wrasses and mandarins will not provide much help in the long run.

 

[ying yang]

Black bugs and success with Interceptor? HELP !

pretty sure i have some black tiny , very tiny bugs , that you can BARELY SPOT with your eyes , seen them on my green slimer stned part, dipped it with coralrx and see specks of them tiny bugs just floating around. after ward my tyree pink lemonade RTN right away the next day. one again dipped...

www.reef2reef.com

Little thread on dosing interceptor for anyone it may help and for myself to look back at if decide want kill these bugs along with all other pods,worms

Edit : little more info on red/black bugs and their treatment

 

[ying yang]

Aquarium Corals: Stony Coral Parasites: Red and Black Bugs: Identification Guide, Preventive Measures, and a Review of Treatment Protocols

Aquarium Corals: Stony Coral Parasites: Red and Black Bugs: Identification Guide, Preventive Measures, and a Review of Treatment Protocols - This article is but a small tool for use by serious hobbyists in answering many questions.

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And an article

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

Black bugs and success with Interceptor? HELP !

pretty sure i have some black tiny , very tiny bugs , that you can BARELY SPOT with your eyes , seen them on my green slimer stned part, dipped it with coralrx and see specks of them tiny bugs just floating around. after ward my tyree pink lemonade RTN right away the next day. one again dipped...

www.reef2reef.com

Little thread on dosing interceptor for anyone it may help and for myself to look back at if decide want kill these bugs along with all other pods,worms

Edit : little more info on red/black bugs and their treatment

It will not kill your worms and all your pods. I wish it would but it doesn’t. It will kill any shrimp and supposedly hermit crabs. It did not even stun my Hawaiian zebra hermits but all the other hermits are gone. Many amphipods survived as well. I don’t understand why ppl have a problem killing pods and worms. These little bugs are basically fleas in your reef tank. Biting and spreading disease from coral to coral. That would be like saying I don’t want to treat my yard for fleas/mosquitos bc it might kill the earthworms. A mandarin/pipefish/wrasse will kill the good pods too….most likely that’s all they’ll eat. My pipefish and wrasse did not help enough with these things. Nuke them 3-4 times spread out 7-10 days apart. Good luck

 

[ying yang]

It will not kill your worms and all your pods. I wish it would but it doesn’t. It will kill any shrimp and supposedly hermit crabs. It did not even stun my Hawaiian zebra hermits but all the other hermits are gone. Many amphipods survived as well. I don’t understand why ppl have a problem killing pods and worms. These little bugs are basically fleas in your reef tank. Biting and spreading disease from coral to coral. That would be like saying I don’t want to treat my yard for fleas/mosquitos bc it might kill the earthworms. A mandarin/pipefish/wrasse will kill the good pods too….most likely that’s all they’ll eat. My pipefish and wrasse did not help enough with these things. Nuke them 3-4 times spread out 7-10 days apart. Good luck

Thanks alot,will decide to do intank treatment if gets worse and see damage to any corals ,what puts me off is I have no coral qt tank at moment so if did intank treatment then would need to qt all corals that buy and as tank only 9 months old I still need alot corals to buy but will decide as time goes on if want go qt route or not .

I'm a new reefer at 9 month and was under the impression we want a diverse reef tank as possible including pods,worms and the like,( ovbiously anything eating our coral or fish not cool.and these little micro organisms help and I part of cuc.

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

Thanks alot,will decide to do intank treatment if gets worse and see damage to any corals ,what puts me off is I have no coral qt tank at moment so if did intank treatment then would need to qt all corals that buy and as tank only 9 months old I still need alot corals to buy but will decide as time goes on if want go qt route or not .

I'm a new reefer at 9 month and was under the impression we want a diverse reef tank as possible including pods,worms and the like,( ovbiously anything eating our coral or fish not cool.and these little micro organisms help and I part of cuc.

It will not kill your pods and worms. It will kill copepods, shrimp and crabs. Most of your amphipods will survive. I know many high end collectors with no qt. They just dip and then do interceptor every 2-3 months just in case. You’re over thinking this. Save your animals and don’t worry about the bugs.

 

[ying yang]

It will not kill your pods and worms. It will kill copepods, shrimp and crabs. Most of your amphipods will survive. I know many high end collectors with no qt. They just dip and then do interceptor every 2-3 months just in case. You’re over thinking this. Save your animals and don’t worry about the bugs.

Ok thanks for info,much appreciated ,yeah I've read one poster say he doses interceptor to his dt once every 3-6 months just as a precautionary thing.

Well earlier think did mistake and used a coral feeder to squirt water at this green slimer in question in hope blow some off ( I know they just get right back on ) and now maybe 8 hours later only 50% polyps out and one the little new nubs if growth gone white like when a coral bleaches / dies and I kept my eye on one particular bug on the coral and didn't even blow it off so probably blew none off lol ( maybe they got some kind of hook to keep them on the coral as I have a power head 24/7 blowing juat above the coral so it's in a high flow area and at edge of rockwork near front if tank so probably one of highest flow rates in tank so not sure what I was thinking dooooh

So may have speeded the damage up by looks of it as was no visible damage to coral what I could see up until blasted it with a coral feeder few cm away from it ( so note to self,don't do stupid things which wouldn't have achieved nothing anyway lol )

 

[jtone_philthy_aquatics]

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[LOVEROCK]

will interceptor kill these kinds? or just not the black flat slug looking ones?

 

[ying yang]

will interceptor kill these kinds? or just not the black flat slug looking ones?

These guys beat to ask as I mener used it sorry

@vetteguy53081
@Charlie's frags

Umm can't seem to tag Charlie.look at his name above and try tag him.its 3.10 am and just woke up and going back sleep now lol