Black cyano looking bacteria taking over

[Nick_cassar]

I have a 30gallon reef tank hooked up to a fluval 207 canister filter, as well as a surface slimmer and media reactor. I have had this black cyano looking stuff that is stringing and acts as a layer of slime over my sand. I have dosed the tank twice with Chemi-Clean however it only eliminated half of the bacteria and with in a day it all returned. Any recommendations ? It has already killed my zoas and killed my fish over night as I have read that they can be extremely toxic

 

[Flippers4pups]

Cyanobacteria is just that, bacteria. If you dosed Chemiclean and it's had little to no effect, then it's most likely Dinoflagellates.

How old is your tank? What is your water parameters?

 

[Jeff Jarry reef]

Welcome to R2R !!!

 

[GeoSquid]

Does it have bubbles under it? If so - It's Dino's!

 

[brandon429]

all you have to do is rip clean the tank fully in one pass to make it work perfectly. its a full detailed cleaning, vs a partial one. if interested, search out and read the first post in this 30 page thread

'the official sand rinse thread'

here on rtr

five years of tanks like yours fixed all in one place takes about 3 hours to fix your reef. no dosers no measures to make no ID matters. the cause of your situation is sand unable to pass a drop test (defined in the thread) and rocks that will cast of tons of rot and waste clouding if shaken mid tank with pumps off. that accumulation and mess is the cause.

the only tanks that have to buy water dosers and wait are large tanks, all nanos can be fixed in three hours.

 

[TriggerFinger]

I second @brandon429 rip clean recommendation since you don’t have much livestock and it’s a small tank.
Edit: I’ve done it on a 29g and a 90g with around 80lbs of rock. It works.

 

[brandon429]

how rude is it to flout the common rules of ID invader and make detailed response

its sort of a matter of pride to see how many pages we can go in the thread not taking any measures for ammonia, nitrate, phosphate, or invader ID and still keep cranking out clean tanks. It circumvents learning about an invader to kill it off this way; it circumvents patience in the reef process.

it teaches nonhesitation ripping of delicate materials but we must hold course, the other ways are too boring. If I had a large tank like Rev's I wouldnt rip clean it; that would take fifty days. I'd ID and test and scope ID and respond and buy pods and do all the half steps due to non access

but for any nano, why bother is how we figure it. just whip it back into compliance. break the rules. u can be fixed by lunch if you can score 30 new gallons of water for the fix up version 2 of this tank using all current materials, but cleaned.

 

[Nick_cassar]

Cyanobacteria is just that, bacteria. If you dosed Chemiclean and it's had little to no effect, then it's most likely Dinoflagellates.

How old is your tank? What is your water parameters?

Cyanobacteria is just that, bacteria. If you dosed Chemiclean and it's had little to no effect, then it's most likely Dinoflagellates.

How old is your tank? What is your water parameters?

the tank is almost a year old. I dosed the tank with Dino x last night and once again woke up to an extremely miserable looking anemone and corals that began to die. I managed to remove the corals and heavily dip and clean them before putting them into my friends tank. I tested the water for nitrite and nitrate and have 0.1 nitrite and 0 nitrate.

 

[brandon429]

wanna rip clean the tank, to save it? we would never ever ever dip a distressed coral during a rip clean is why I was inquiring.

 

[Nick_cassar]

wanna rip clean the tank, to save it? we would never ever ever dip a distressed coral during a rip clean is why I was inquiring.

I’m so sorry but I’m unsure what rip cleaning is?

 

[brandon429]

here we are, this will fix ya.

Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread

If you are reading this thread to cure a tank invasion from a link I sent you, we do not need to identify your type of invasion here we do not need you to test anything at anytime regarding nitrate, phosphate etc Above all, we do not need to see a microscope slide picture of your invasion at...

www.reef2reef.com

read the examples in our first post in that link, and you'll never have an invaded reef tank again unless you want it invaded. pretty neat to be that resolved about cyano/dinos/whatever that is you have (we dont bother to ID or test invaders there, we just rip clean for 5 years)

 

[Nick_cassar]

wanna rip clean the tank, to save it? we would never ever ever dip a distressed coral during a rip clean is why I was inquiring.

Sorry I just read a comment above explaining it. I’m still getting use to this whole forum thing! And it seems like a great idea.

 

[brandon429]

that link will help you.

taking tanks apart to clean them is real literal aquarium surgery, its interesting in that if you try and customize the approach its dangerous/can kill your tank.

but we're out 33 pages with not one loss of a tank, thats because if you align the steps like we do its 100% consistent for as many years as that thread will run. it will never have a mini cycle or a recycle.

we take tanks whose sandbeds and rock are full of waste clouding + invaders

and we clean them to the bone in one pass, no more clouding, no more invader.

clearly it will only work on smaller tanks, but our size record is 120 gallons first link from Jon and then somewhere in those pages a guy had to move homes with a 220 but I can't remember which page

 

[Big G]

I've done the "Rip clean" thing on small QT's and my 90. Siphon out the sand. Wash the sand. Clean the sand. Replace the sand. I like to use a large diameter piece of PVC pipe 2"-3" diameter that is long enough to reach the bottom of the tank, to replace the sand. Works pretty good. Best of luck.