Blue lined pipefish and a nano tank

[the_reef_keeper]

Hi all,
I'm new to this forum but not new to reefing. I've been reefing for 3 years and started with a 2 G nano zoanthid garden but when I moved that tank was shut down
Currently I have a 33 gallon reef with a pair of clowns and a couple of chromis
I really miss smaller tanks so I'm starting a 10 gallon. I love pipefish and always wanted to try them. I feel like this is a great opportunity to try out a pair of blue lined pipefish and maybe some small gobies like trimma or evoita gobies. I have a question care wise about blueline pipefish.
1) how difficult are they to get to eat
I am currently breeding saltwater feeder shrimp and the fry seem perfect sized for the pipefish. I also am trying to get a culture of live blackworms set up along with Calanoid copepods. I know LA lists them as Expert only so i want to be super cautious.

2) what coral can sting them
I want to have A lot of Acans and soft coral

3) Any one have experiences with these fish

Not related to pipefish:
For the tank I want shrimpgobies that can maybe share a burrow like a hi fin goby and maybe a Yasha goby
Do they get along?

This is the desired fish list:
1x Yasha goby
1x Hi fin goby
One bluelined pipefish Pair
1x evoita goby ( still deciding on species)
1x red striped trimma goby

Thanks and happy reefing !!

 

[tdileo]

Looks like your post got cut off. Unless my phone is displaying it wrong

 

[the_reef_keeper]

Yeah just fixed that - still new to this forum

 

[tdileo]

In my experience gobys don't get along unless in a pair. Especially in a small tank I would worry about fighting. I've seen gobies pick up crabs and stuff and carry them away from their holes, as well as attack much bigger fish who come too close.
You should be able to have acans and softies without a problem, they're peaceful. Some kind of euphyllia in a small tank could get them, but in my experience corals don't sting fish as much as they do other corals that are getting too close.
I don't have any experience with pipefish so won't comment on that. But I have had success gettig picky eaters to go from live brine to frozen mysis and every so often he will eat some pellets. I don't think the pipefish will starve as long as you have a good amount of pods

 

[Rick cowen]

I've had pipefish and seahorses together and they've always done well, provided you have a good food source and it sounds like you do, he careful with water flow, they like gentle currents

 

[the_reef_keeper]

A couple more questions-
1) can blueline pipefish eat amphipods (they can get up to 1/2 inch which seems a little big)

2) can trimma and evoita gobies get along with each other and those of the same species?

3) I've never kept marine plants before and want to get some for this tank, any great beginner plants?

4) what should I do for QT and what diseases should I treat for using what products (internal parasites etc)
I think instead of culturing parvocalanus crassirostris (a species of calanoid copepod) I think I'm going to do Tisbe pods and Amphipods because calanoid pods seem like their more for fry and are a PITA to raise because of the phytoplankton required (isochrysis galbana)

 

[the_reef_keeper]

Bump

 

[tdileo]

As far as QT I would just watch them for a few weeks and see what happens. If nothing then plop them in the display. I don't like using chemicals if there's no need!
Most of the macroalgae species are good plants.
Gracilaria, Halimeda, Caulerpa, Dragon's Breath, Kelp, Mangroves, Codium.
Just be warned that most marine plants grow super fast since the tanks typically have strong lighting and most of us like to overfeed our fish
Gorgonians (sea fans) are a type of coral but I think the pipefish would enjoy having them around as well

 

[the_reef_keeper]

Yeah I'm definitely going to have lots of photosynthetic gorgonians and a lot of tall soft coral like Kenya tree, leathers etc. I might try some macroalgae but don't they go "sexual" and take over the tank?This worried me so I might just get a tiny bit of kelp and some Turtle grass

Still wondering if the little pipe fish can fit adult amphipods in their tiny mouths though

I went down to the seahorse and pipefish section and asked more QT questions there.
I'm getting really excited about this tank