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i was wondering how often do you guys get that brown dust on your glass. very easy to take off but i clean it at night and by the time i get home from work i have a few spots of algae.
80 gal sps dominated
nitrate 0
phos 0
cal 425
mag 1335
alk 170 ppm

cleanup crew is
5 snails
4 hermit crabs
2 peppermint shrimp
1 skunk shrimp and 1 fire shrimp.
 
How old is the tank? How big and how much do you feed?

I have to clean my glass about once a month for algae or every three months for coraline algae.

See if feeding less helps with the algae buildup on the glass. Also maybe your light schedule is on to long. I run an 8 hour lighting schedule.


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I'm cleaning it every time I pass the tank. More prevalent for me in high flow areas believe it or not. Get a good magnet and get your arm workout on.
 
tank is a little over a year old. i feed once a day. i have my main lights 8 hrs and actinics for 10hrs.
 
I know exactly what you're talking about withe the "brown dust" i'm just glad I am not alone, I clean mine as well about once every 2 days.

Do you run any GFO? I don't I used to, but now I clean the glass more often. (it seems, cant pinpoint it though)
What do you use for flow? I have 2 Mp40s in a 75 so I have ALOT of flow.
Skimmer? I have an RO XS160 Diablo on a 75g w/ 38g sump
Filter Socks? I run 1 filter sock in my sump, changed out about every 2 days.
Feeding Schedule? I feed sparingly, probably a 1/2 cube mix of Rods/Cycopleze/Mysis, as well as a pinch of Spectrum Thera-A pellets a day.

Just trying to figure out why some people dont have this dirty glass problem!
 
Hi I hope I can help you out. I've dealt with the same as well for at least a month now, but finally its starting to dissipate. The problem in my tank was for one it is still young and for two my phosphate levels were a bit high. What I did to help begin resolving the issue was first address the phosphate as they feed this type of algae when levels are unsuitable ,so I added a gfo reactor about a month ago, with the best gfo media availible which is that German brand. So now that the gfo is ripping phosphate out of the water, next to lessen the phosphate load I cut down feeding my fish to about every other, to every third day, depending how hungry they looked, and let's face in they are beggars, but they can easily survive with less food. The way I feed them is attract the to the top and drop just a few pellets at a time to make sure each fish got a share of the pellets without leaving any pellets behind about two pellets a fish,this may seem a little tedious at first but now this is how I feed them everyday now and they are perfectly healthy still and the phosphates are still coming down, and the dust algae is becoming lesser by the day.
Now while all this is happened I also purchased 100% polyester fill for pillows at the craft store and with the polyester I took a lot of it and stuffed it into the last chamber in my sump so the tank water would flow through it and not bypass it and return back to the tank, so with the polyester in place now everyday I scrubbed all the glass and I also used a firm toothbrush to scrub algae off the rock, then gave the top layer of sand a little stir to mix it up a bit. Now the tank looks like a cloudy mess for the next half hour or so, but now when the water clears up look in the sump at the polyester, I looks very dirty. Scoop that poly out and replace it with new poly. Now at first this was a daily thing plus a once a week water change but for the last two weeks in the month doing this process the phosphates have come down, and the frequency of the scrubbing cleaning and changing of the poly have also been reduced dramatically and I'm still scrubbing the glass daily but the poly stays cleaner longer because less algae on the glass.
So all said and done my tank was a pretty severe case and now I would consider it much less so. Thank god. This will work anyone with a mild to severe case as long as you stay focused on the process
 
Its not unusual for healthy reef systems to dust up the glass every couple of days or so. This in itself is doesn't indicate a problem. As long as the rest of your system is funtional and your animals are thriving dont be concerned.
 
all my corals and fish are very healthy. i don't think it's overfeeding since i only feed once a day and my nitrate and phosphates are 0. my second guess would be that my tank sits right in front of a window eventhough i block it out with blinds so no sunlight gets into my tank.
 
Can you take a picture of the problem ? Your tank can be perfectly healthy. Tanks can thrive in more extreme conditions. What size is your tank, do you have a sump , do you have a fuge, do you have a gfo reactor? Did you start your tank with Tap Water? You top off This way ?
 
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all my corals and fish are very healthy. i don't think it's overfeeding since i only feed once a day and my nitrate and phosphates are 0. my second guess would be that my tank sits right in front of a window eventhough i block it out with blinds so no sunlight gets into my tank.
A lot of people are very successful with running a coral tank with a lot higher nutrient levels than generally accepted by most in this hobby. Do a search and look at some of the tanks maintained by the different people posting here. If they are advising you to force your nutrients below natural levels generally experienced on a natural coral reef, look at their system and decide if thats the kind of system you are trying to build and maintain. If so, then that is a valid method to maintain these guys. Some of the tanks running low nuets do work well and a few of the low nutrient systems you see are very successful. It does work. However, the issues with trying to force low nutrients are well documented in this and many other forums. By aware of what you are trying to do before you travel that path. If you search, you will also find that some people run very sucessful , high nutrient systems, long term as well. The methods used to set up and maintain these systems are very different from running a lo nuet system. Once again, review these systems and consider what you are trying to do. The advice you recieve from someone like myself who runs a high nuet system will be different from most of what you hear in most of these coral help me forums. Once again, look at the tanks that people run and understand, that if you do it that way and your persistent and understand their processes then someday your tank will probably look like the people who you listen to.
 
Dog Boy [B said:
[/B]Dave;1165413]Its not unusual for healthy reef systems to dust up the glass every couple of days or so. This in itself is doesn't indicate a problem. As long as the rest of your system is funtional and your animals are thriving dont be concerned.

Imo if a tank is properly managed this does not have to be a daily occurrence , there are members who are cleaning much less and its a problem that is not so much as a nuisance that can be reasolved if addressed the right way. This can be achieved if the right steps in husbandry are taken.
 
Dog Boy Dave so that is proof of what I'm saying. You are saying you run high nutrients and that is probably the cause of you having to clean your glass every couple of days but this person want to get rid of this problem and high nutrients is definitely not going to fix it. So this is why I came up with that solution.
 
Imo if a tank is properly managed this does not have to be a daily occurrence , there are members who are cleaning much less and its a problem that is not so much as a nuisance that can be reasolved if addressed the right way. This can be achieved if the right steps in husbandry are taken.

Here is a picture of my tank. I have had some of these pieces over ten years. The stag in the middle was 6 inches high when i got and it is now over three feet accross, This tank is purposely run high nutrient and that is the reason it is sucessful. High nutrients are not a "problem" They are part of the strategy I use to run this system. I clean the diatoms and algae off the glass in this tank every couple of days. (Unfortunatley cleaning the coraline is much harder and doesnt occur as regular) Cleaning the glass is not a problem, any more than adding water to replace evaporation is. However, if your strategy is to force nutrients low and you dont have any other way to deal with algae growth in your main sytem then it might be. I guess the people looking can make their own decision on whether they think this tank is being "properly managed" .

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Dog Boy Dave so that is proof of what I'm saying. You are saying you run high nutrients and that is probably the cause of you having to clean your glass every couple of days but this person want to get rid of this problem and high nutrients is definitely not going to fix it. So this is why I came up with that solution.
Im sorry I was confused. I didnt know this thread was about you being "right".
I thought the original poster asked how often we clean the glass in our system. I replied with about every couple of days and some replied that their system did not grow much algae at all. This also reflect their strategy to deal with nutrient export. Many replied with more questions and many replied with "solutions" to his "problem". In some systems, yours apparently is one of them, diatom and algae growth on the glass may be considered a "problem". This is a reflection of the strategy you use to manage your system. It might work for you. I havent seen your system, and couldnt find any full tank shots when i looked for them but it might work for you. I have seen some systems that work long term lo nutrient but honestly, I have never seen any in person that are sucessful for more than a couple of years, but I have seen a few on line. In other systems, mine included the rate of diatom and algae growth on our glass just considered an indicator of the nutrient levels in our system. It does not indicate a problem at all and isnt one of the more important considerations when making decisions regarding nurient addition and export. Two very different ways to manage a system. Neither is right or proper and neither is always wrong. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
 
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all my corals and fish are very healthy. i don't think it's overfeeding since i only feed once a day and my nitrate and phosphates are 0. my second guess would be that my tank sits right in front of a window eventhough i block it out with blinds so no sunlight gets into my tank.
all my corals and fish are very healthy. i don't think it's overfeeding since i only feed once a day and my nitrate and phosphates are 0. my second guess would be that my tank sits right in front of a window eventhough i block it out with blinds so no sunlight gets into my tank.
You should not have 0 nitrates. You need atleast 5
 
Are you using RO/DI filtered water? This algae is diatoms, and diatoms consume silicates. If you have an over abundance of silica in your water source even after RO/DI, I'd recommend silica buster by spectra pure. If you don't have an RO/DI water filter, or a source to buy that grade of filtered water, that is your first steps.

This is one of the most important parts of keeping a healthy reef aquarium. Where your water comes from is the foundation of the ecosystem you're building. You want it to be as pure as possible.

My tank is a year old, and I get zero diatoms. I only run a refugium with no skimmer, or even filter socks while feeding six times a day.
 

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