Brown Jelly Disease??

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

Hello,

I recently bought a torch from an online vendor and it came with a very short base that cracked when trying to attach it into the tank. I just looked at the torch and saw this brownish slime near it. Can someone please ID and let me know what to do? I have other corals that are doing very well nearby it. Should I fully remove or treat? I didn’t think this coral would last due to the skeleton in the first place…

Thanks so much!

Stephen8169301 · May 10, 2023

Are you talking about that brown just to the top left?

JGT · May 10, 2023

Looks to be BJD. Torches are highly susceptible to this when injured.

Pistondog · May 10, 2023

If it sloughs off when you blow on it it might be.

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

Stephen8169301 said:
Are you talking about that brown just to the top left?

Yes

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

What would be the suggestion for dealing with this? I personally don’t care for this coral but I don’t want the rest of my torches and all getting infected.

Stephen8169301 · May 10, 2023

EliMelly said:
What would be the suggestion for dealing with this? I personally don’t care for this coral but I don’t want the rest of my torches and all getting infected.

I personally don’t know but someone with experience with this will give you advice

Pistondog · May 10, 2023

I dont think your other corals are in danger, unless they are stressed by injury or other.
Try to suck up the brown jelly with a turkey baster. Bjd is rapid, that torch may be all gone in the morning.
If it were multi head torch, you might treat with an in tank cipro dosing, where you dose after lighfs out nights 1, 3 and 5.
If you dont care for the torch, remove it.

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

Pistondog said:
I dont think your other corals are in danger, unless they are stressed by injury or other.
Try to suck up the brown jelly with a turkey baster. Bjd is rapid, that torch may be all gone in the morning.
If it were multi head torch, you might treat with an in tank cipro dosing, where you dose after lighfs out nights 1, 3 and 5.
If you dont care for the torch, remove it.

It seems like a while head is gone now, so should I just remove and trash and leave the tank without treatment?

JGT · May 10, 2023

Yes. It will continue to spread.

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

JGT said:
Yes. It will continue to spread.

So no need to treat the rest of the tank?

Pistondog · May 10, 2023

Remove dead torcn.
No need For any further treatment. Let us know how it goes.

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

I removed the torch and I think got 99% of the brown jelly out. My jester who was right near it seems a bit more translucent on some of its tentacles (not sure proper word) I’m a bit nervous now. Any thoughts?

EliMelly · May 10, 2023

TheSheff · Jun 6, 2023

EliMelly said:

that translucent tentacle is just a feeder tentacle that euphyllia put out sometimes. If you get any more corals with BJD I would recommend doing an in tank Cipro treatment. I've been battling BJD for a while now and that's the only thing that has seemed to help.

ElementReefer · Jun 6, 2023

For future reference, if you can’t find cipro I have used API Fin and Body Cure (doxycycline) and API EM Erythromycin as a combo treatment with good results. They are widely available at pet stores.

For now though I agree that if you already removed the sick torch, no need for tank treatment.

TheSheff · Jun 6, 2023

ElementReefer said:
For future reference, if you can’t find cipro I have used API Fin and Body Cure (doxycycline) and API EM Erythromycin as a combo treatment with good results. They are widely available at pet stores.

For now though I agree that if you already removed the sick torch, no need for tank treatment.

I don't necessarily agree with you. The fact that the torch was even able to develop BJD implies that arcobacter is present within the system, if he doesn't reduce the populations sick or injured corals will continue to develop it.

EliMelly · Jun 6, 2023

itrymybest said:
I don't necessarily agree with you. The fact that the torch was even able to develop BJD implies that arcobacter is present within the system, if he doesn't reduce the populations sick or injured corals will continue to develop it.

So far I haven’t had anything…

ElementReefer · Jun 6, 2023

itrymybest said:
I don't necessarily agree with you. The fact that the torch was even able to develop BJD implies that arcobacter is present within the system, if he doesn't reduce the populations sick or injured corals will continue to develop it.

Possible? Yes. Worth the side effects of antibiotics? Not unless they notice further issues, imho.

What they could do is send off a water sample to AquaBiomics and if arcobacter is in there, then do a round of cipro or baytril. The microbio pros usually beg us not to treat prophylactically.

Pistondog · Jun 6, 2023

itrymybest said:
I don't necessarily agree with you. The fact that the torch was even able to develop BJD implies that arcobacter is present within the system, if he doesn't reduce the populations sick or injured corals will continue to develop it.

Ime, bjd causative agent, bacteria x is always present. It needs a sick or injured coral with a depressed immune system to attack.