Bubble Algae, Aiptasia, and Pests-Oh My

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My refugium is out of control. In the last year since starting the tank my sump had been a matter of frustration regarding nuisance everything.
I’ve gotten the hair algae under control using nutrients control and small amounts of carbon.
My rocks continue to get covered in red bubble algae and aiptasia. I remove rocks, sun bleach, return and covered within a couple moths again. I’ve attempted using emerald crab, peppermint shrimp, Manila removal, aiptasia X. It’s a never ending battle.
Recently I’ve noticed that ever increasing amount of different types of snail like critters that do not have shells, maybe nudibranches. They come out in what seems like armies at night. I can’t count them there’s so many.

What I would love to do is remove everything in the refugium and start over-but that doesn’t seem possible after 14 months and such a well stocked display.

So my questions are as follows:

1. Is it ever successful tearing out an established sump and installing a new one while a mixed reef tank is operating?
2. How much Live Rock can I remove before it’s going to seriously effect my reef tank?
3. If I take the rock out will it even be effective due to the 2.5 inch sand bed?
4. How do I reduce so many nutrients and still have my corals thrive?

I’d like to redo the sump. I bought it used and the baffles and where equipment is located is not ideal. Overflow into refugium, no socks, over baffle, no media, into return area that holds 10” reef octopus slimmer, mag 18 and maxi jet supply to carbon reactor.

All the new sump designs are laid out much better than this old point of sale. How not crash my tank and at the same time remove all these pests at the same time.

210 display, 75 gallon sump.




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I've seen plenty of people revamp their sump/refugium. It wouldn't be much different from doing a deep clean or removing a sand bed. How does the display look? Any bad guys in there?
 
Just unplug it from the system.

I did that like a month ago and am about to rebuild the DT.
NBD.
 
I've seen plenty of people revamp their sump/refugium. It wouldn't be much different from doing a deep clean or removing a sand bed. How does the display look? Any bad guys in there?

Coral is happy

Aiptasia gets into the display and I use peppermint, file fish, and X to get it out. The refuge keeps sending it tho

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Coral is happy

Aiptasia gets into the display and I use peppermint, file fish, and X to get it out. The refuge keeps sending it tho

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Looks good. I agree with poster above......just unhook and do what you've got to do. :)
 
Looks good. I agree with poster above......just unhook and do what you've got to do. :)

I want to 100% clear on unhooking from system and restarting.
When I install the new sump should I use any of the existing substrate, rock from my 30 gallon refugium?
Installing a fresh new sump and losing the existing refugium support(good and bad) may be a shock to the display.
Do you know of any forums or posts that show sump rebuilds on running systems?
Thank you
 
Do this (I did) turn off the return pump.
Put a powerhead in the Refugium.

See what happens.

I have two tanks. One with a sump. One without. Same difference.

You are trying to kill the Refugium pests. So kill it all. Then cycle new live rock , or recycle the old imo.

The stuff like bigger pieces of rock , you can half kill by using peroxide instead of bleach. Then recycle in a bucket.
 
Sounds like you just bit off too much all at once. Easy to do since most tanks seem to "do it all", but it can become too much at some point.

Your "night invaders" sound and look like Stomatella snails. GOOD GUYS. :)

Bleaching rocks isn't a real answer to any of these problems which probably accounts for the trading hair algae for another algae.

Peppermint shrimp in the refugium should work.

Or just a lot of attention and Aiptasia X.

It's not like they can hide in a refugium so go after em with gusto! :) :) :)

If there's a hider you can't reach then turn the rock over to either bury him or to get him more exposed.

Putting a full-flow UV on the return would even work as a stop-gap while you chase them down.

There are lots of ways, none of them nuclear. ;)

The tank looks great. IMO you're over-reacting. You just need to adjust course in one or two ways to get things going in your favor.

(And things aren't as bad as you think anyway....no mystery invaders!!!! :) :) :) )
 

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