Bubblegum chalice peeling??

R6REEFER · Mar 8, 2016

Chalice freaks!

I need help. My bubblegum looks pretty good but I noticed the outside rim was turning brownish black. I just picked it up for the first time in a month and as you can see, the flesh is litterally peeling by the brown. What could this be? Too much light or too little? My Miami has the same brown edges but isn't peeling. Both corals have great extension and are growing eyes like crazy which leads me to believe this is a lighting issue. I've been battling my light schedule for about 4 months now.

R6REEFER · Mar 8, 2016

Here is the miami. An example of the new but brown tissue.

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

Bump please!

sc50964 · Mar 9, 2016

Could be excessive level of phosphate. Have you checked that?

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

P04 - 0.00 ppm
No3 - 3 ppm

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

Excuse me, 2 ppm nitrates after last night's WC.

No3 - 2 ppm
Po4 - 0.00
Alk - 11.6 dkh
Mag - 1380 ppm
Cal - 420 ppm
Ph - 8.1
Sal - 1.026

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

Here's my current schedule (3 AI Hydra's).

AndrewNC · Mar 9, 2016

Mines had a similar issue and I believe it was lighting. I moved it lower in my tank and it's doing awesome now

that Reef Guy · Mar 9, 2016

Dip it in Bayer.

I have had Many Chalices Start to Receed on Me.

The Only thing that ever Saved Them was a Bayer Dip.

Do it Right Away too as Recession can happen very very fast and Spread to other LPS!

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

that Reef Guy said:
Dip it in Bayer.

I have had Many Chalices Start to Receed on Me.

The Only thing that ever Saved Them was a Bayer Dip.

Do it Right Away too as Recession can happen very very fast and Spread to other LPS!

What would be the correct ratio? I'll go pick some up today, any specific type?

WetWhistle · Mar 9, 2016

I use 8MLS of bayers in 1L of tank water. Dip for 5-10 mins and rinse in clean tank water. I have had nothing get through at these doses.

Not saying you should or shouldn't use bayers in this case. But I myself would look at bacterial or virus infections and do a selco (concentrated) iodine dip first. As bayers is more for pests then bacterial or virus infections. I myself like to take the least stressful option first and then move on if needed.

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

WetWhistle said:
I use 8MLS of bayers in 1L of tank water. Dip for 5-10 mins and rinse in clean tank water. I have had nothing get through at these doses.

Not saying you should or shouldn't use bayers in this case. But I myself would look at bacterial or virus infections and do a selco (concentrated) iodine dip first. As bayers is more for pests then bacterial or virus infections. I myself like to take the least stressful option first and then move on if needed.

Yessir, I don't really think it has anything to do with pests, that may be an ignorant comment but I've never had any pests in this tank. Or disease. *knock on wood*. The bubblegum was healthy as an ox and still is, it extends more and farther than any other coral. The only flesh that is peeling is the thinnest around the side of the plug, it's thinner than paper. I moved it up onto my comeback rack so we'll see what happens with the light. It seemed to dull a bit on the SB.

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

This is when I first got it.

GrandLotus · Mar 9, 2016

Seems like this is only happening on the rim where the plug ends.

Could be due to the coral trying to grow downward along the plug because it seems like the piece is very healthy..?

I personally keep chalice low/sand bedded in my tanks with great results.

My advise is to blow off the brown and just keep an eye on her for any more receding tissue.
No need to freak out over a minor and small brown spot, IMO.
Is the brown spot soft and able to be blown off?

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

GrandLotus said:
Seems like this is only happening on the rim where the plug ends.

Could be due to the coral trying to grow downward along the plug because it seems like the piece is very healthy..?

I personally keep chalice low/sand bedded in my tanks with great results.

My advise is to blow off the brown and just keep an eye on her for any more receding tissue.
No need to freak out over a minor and small brown spot, IMO.
Is the brown spot soft and able to be blown off?

Yeah that piece blew off last night. All my other chalices like it low with a couple exceptions but this one was poppin when I bought it. He had it higher in the tank by his sps so that's why I moved it to that rack.

WetWhistle · Mar 9, 2016

To much flow or to much light can cause that to defiantly. I have one that just never did well till I found the spot it loved. At the bottom with good but not strong flow. I put a small rock in front of it on the side the water is flowing from so the water comes up and over. Seems to work like a charm for me. Look at your fish as well one could have accidentally grazed on it. My tangs have done that by mistake and took a small chunk out. It seems to have healthy tissue expansion on the rest of the coral so don't stress to much.

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

WetWhistle said:
To much flow or to much light can cause that to defiantly. I have one that just never did well till I found the spot it loved. At the bottom with good but not strong flow. I put a small rock in front of it on the side the water is flowing from so the water comes up and over. Seems to work like a charm for me. Look at your fish as well one could have accidentally grazed on it. My tangs have done that by mistake and took a small chunk out. It seems to have healthy tissue expansion on the rest of the coral so don't stress to much.

Right on, I'll keep an eye out but all I have is an orchid dotty back and an engineering goby haha. Personally I think it's getting too little light down there cause of where it was in the LFS. Could also be a transition from kessil to Hydra's. I shouldn't worry too much but I get antsy when I see stuff like that!

Thanks guys

Triggreef · Mar 9, 2016

That's not the first person I've seen mention Bayer to so tissue recession on chalice. I think there was a large thread about it. I haven't tried it yet for that purpose but I do use it for a new arrival do and even very heavy amounts, I never noticed any stress events with any corals from Bayer dip.

If it keeps happening I would give it a try, as it won't hurt. But I'd continue exploring for reasoning as to why that's happening.

R6REEFER · Mar 9, 2016

Triggreef said:
That's not the first person I've seen mention Bayer to so tissue recession on chalice. I think there was a large thread about it. I haven't tried it yet for that purpose but I do use it for a new arrival do and even very heavy amounts, I never noticed any stress events with any corals from Bayer dip.

If it keeps happening I would give it a try, as it won't hurt. But I'd continue exploring for reasoning as to why that's happening.

Is it just regular Bayer?