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Diesel
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What kind of tangs we talking here?
Some are more aggressive towards each other than others.
How big is your tank?
If you it is possible try to catch him an keep that tang in a acclimation box in the tank as the other tangs can get used to him, sometimes that will help.
If the new tang is smaller than the rest in your tank it will be a ongoing thing and sometimes they will corner him and damage him so much that he will die from the wounds and stress.
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Some are more aggressive towards each other than others.
How big is your tank?
If you it is possible try to catch him an keep that tang in a acclimation box in the tank as the other tangs can get used to him, sometimes that will help.
If the new tang is smaller than the rest in your tank it will be a ongoing thing and sometimes they will corner him and damage him so much that he will die from the wounds and stress.
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Not much you can do... Tangs are territorial and can be very mean.
You can leave the lights off as much as possible so everyone sleeps and the new fish has time to relax and get used to the tank. I've never found this to be that good because the lights have to comeback on at some point and usually the bullying starts again.
You can remove the tangs already in the system for 2 weeks and they will forget your display completely. I've done this with more aggressive wrasses with success.
Catch the new tang, put him into some sort of acclimation box that is in the display for a few days so the other tangs can see him and get used to him. If they want to be aggressive, you'll have that barrier between the fish so the new fish won't be harmed.
Or, if you are lucky after a few days the bullying will stop. The problem more than anything I have found with fish being aggressive towards a new addition is that the new fish never gets eating and ultimately starves.
If the tang is smaller than the other ones you are probably introuble... If you have a Powder Blue or something along those lines, I think you need to get the fish out and put him in an acclimation box as those types of tangs are ridiculously mean fish.
You can leave the lights off as much as possible so everyone sleeps and the new fish has time to relax and get used to the tank. I've never found this to be that good because the lights have to comeback on at some point and usually the bullying starts again.
You can remove the tangs already in the system for 2 weeks and they will forget your display completely. I've done this with more aggressive wrasses with success.
Catch the new tang, put him into some sort of acclimation box that is in the display for a few days so the other tangs can see him and get used to him. If they want to be aggressive, you'll have that barrier between the fish so the new fish won't be harmed.
Or, if you are lucky after a few days the bullying will stop. The problem more than anything I have found with fish being aggressive towards a new addition is that the new fish never gets eating and ultimately starves.
If the tang is smaller than the other ones you are probably introuble... If you have a Powder Blue or something along those lines, I think you need to get the fish out and put him in an acclimation box as those types of tangs are ridiculously mean fish.
Diesel
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You have only one yellow tang that's after you PB tang?
Acclimation box is my best bet if this is what you have.
How many gallons is the tank.
You have options to try - Powder blues are mean fish so expect the fish to be just as bad or worse to new fish once he gets comfortable in the tank.
I have an achilles tang and it is the smallest of my 3 tangs and I can't add anything to my tank because the achilles won't ever leave the fish alone.
I have an achilles tang and it is the smallest of my 3 tangs and I can't add anything to my tank because the achilles won't ever leave the fish alone.
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Set up a hospital tank and put all fish in there and treat with copper. Let the DT sit empty (no fish) for 72 days. Look here:
How to Treat Ich
How to Treat Ich
Fish don't develop ich. Ich is a parasite.
If you didn't QT the fish then he either came with it or the parasite was already present in your system. With ich in the system, you'll want to remove all the fish and treat them. There are 3 primary ways to do this, copper, hypo-salinity and tank transfer. I use tank transfer myself, it is pretty fool proof. You'll want the display to sit fallow for 90 days to ensure the parasite is out of your system.
There is no miracle product you can buy that will fix the problem because stuff like "kick-ich" doesn't kill the eggs.
The topic of ich and treatment has been discussed and beaten to death for years so it wont be hard to find the information you are looking for in regards to treatment.
If you didn't QT the fish then he either came with it or the parasite was already present in your system. With ich in the system, you'll want to remove all the fish and treat them. There are 3 primary ways to do this, copper, hypo-salinity and tank transfer. I use tank transfer myself, it is pretty fool proof. You'll want the display to sit fallow for 90 days to ensure the parasite is out of your system.
There is no miracle product you can buy that will fix the problem because stuff like "kick-ich" doesn't kill the eggs.
The topic of ich and treatment has been discussed and beaten to death for years so it wont be hard to find the information you are looking for in regards to treatment.
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I've heard that a rescape (either partial or total) can confuse territory for established fish, and give the new guy a chance to stake out a spot for himself.
Another "trick" that you can try is the Mirror Trick. Take a good sized flat mirror (as big as you're able to utilize) and tape it to the glass in an area where the bully will see it frequently. He'll be so preoccupied with the new fish that looks just like him, he'll leave your new fish alone. This has worked famously for me and my leopard wrasses, but it was suggested to me by a guy who keeps tangs. Apparently the bully will be more concerned with a rival that is more similar in size, shape and color than the smaller new fish.
I have three leopard wrasses in my 45g, and I was experiencing serious aggression from the Potter's toward the Blue Star. The Potter's had previously bullied an Ornate Leopard until she died, and then she turned her sites on the Blue Star. It was relentless. I had an opportunity to add a (somewhat rare and expensive) Choati Leopard, I felt like I had to try whatever I could to preempt any aggression. So I taped a mirror to the side of the tank (where I can't see it, but the fish can), and it's worked like a charm. Pretty much overnight, the Potter's has stopped chasing the Blue Star around, and surprisingly, I see them swimming around together in harmony. I think the Potter's has decided that there's another fish in there that looks just like her, and she needs allies. She's very buddy buddy with both other leopards now. No chasing, no aggression at all. It's pretty amazing.
Another "trick" that you can try is the Mirror Trick. Take a good sized flat mirror (as big as you're able to utilize) and tape it to the glass in an area where the bully will see it frequently. He'll be so preoccupied with the new fish that looks just like him, he'll leave your new fish alone. This has worked famously for me and my leopard wrasses, but it was suggested to me by a guy who keeps tangs. Apparently the bully will be more concerned with a rival that is more similar in size, shape and color than the smaller new fish.
I have three leopard wrasses in my 45g, and I was experiencing serious aggression from the Potter's toward the Blue Star. The Potter's had previously bullied an Ornate Leopard until she died, and then she turned her sites on the Blue Star. It was relentless. I had an opportunity to add a (somewhat rare and expensive) Choati Leopard, I felt like I had to try whatever I could to preempt any aggression. So I taped a mirror to the side of the tank (where I can't see it, but the fish can), and it's worked like a charm. Pretty much overnight, the Potter's has stopped chasing the Blue Star around, and surprisingly, I see them swimming around together in harmony. I think the Potter's has decided that there's another fish in there that looks just like her, and she needs allies. She's very buddy buddy with both other leopards now. No chasing, no aggression at all. It's pretty amazing.
Power blue tangs get Ich real easy and placing the fish in the tank After another tang has already been in your tank is going to cause a lot of health issues. Best way is to remove the Yellow tang from the tank and then after a few days reintroduce the Yellow tang to the tank. Then the shoe will be on the other foot.
Putting several different tangs in a tank is a very tricky problems and works best when you have a very large tank to house them.
Putting several different tangs in a tank is a very tricky problems and works best when you have a very large tank to house them.
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Thanks for the heads up!
To the op, this thread should be helpful. Rather than type it all up, read through this. Good luck! Powder blues are the most aggressive tang by far, IMO
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tang-aggression-understanding-and-combating.215698/
