Can’t get no darn nitrates

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Here’s what I’ll do,
I’ll give it ~two weeks and see how things play out. If i see the same things going on, Ill go and buy another fish and feed more generously
 
Now is that a dangerous game to play or should I be safe? I heard small systems never respond well to coral feeding.
If you do it correctly and in small increments you should be OK. Here's Billy P's version and it works well ->
 
If you do it correctly and in small increments you should be OK. Here's Billy P's version and it works well ->
i have brs reef chili, assume it will be the same deal? Thank you!
 
First, buy QT'd fish and don't panic, it doesn't have to be scary. Setting up a reef tank can be rather simple and/or complicated, but if you're just starting out, it's better to go slow. If you're starting out with dry rock, it's going to take time, but if you're starting out with established rock or cured live rock, then the biological filter is ready from day one. I would not start broadcast feeding coral food, that's an algae outbreak waiting to happen, but do monitor your corals for signs of stress. Pale colors, healthy looking flesh, not deflated (for some corals), etc...observation is key here, not numbers. People who give you hard numbers are probably the people I would shy away from, because they lack the experience to know otherwise. It's better to stick to ranges and keep them stable (some parameters require tighter ranges). Testing zero NO3 doesn't mean you're actually at zero, if you were at actual zero, things would start to die and fade quickly. Other organisms utilize nitrates more efficiently than corals do, especially algae, so testing zero can mean a lot of different things. Remember, when testing nutrients, you're testing residuals, not actual. Hobby grade test kits are not that accurate, so it's a range, not precise numbers here.
It's a new tank, so there are a lot of biological processes going on that uptake nutrients, alk, etc....it takes time for this to balance out. So don't start dumping food in hoping to raise nutrients, just safely add another fish or two and feed accordingly. K.I.S.S.
 
Food + Fish = Nitrates!

Consider upping the stock if you dont have enough in there.
 
First, buy QT'd fish and don't panic, it doesn't have to be scary. Setting up a reef tank can be rather simple and/or complicated, but if you're just starting out, it's better to go slow. If you're starting out with dry rock, it's going to take time, but if you're starting out with established rock or cured live rock, then the biological filter is ready from day one. I would not start broadcast feeding coral food, that's an algae outbreak waiting to happen, but do monitor your corals for signs of stress. Pale colors, healthy looking flesh, not deflated (for some corals), etc...observation is key here, not numbers. People who give you hard numbers are probably the people I would shy away from, because they lack the experience to know otherwise. It's better to stick to ranges and keep them stable (some parameters require tighter ranges). Testing zero NO3 doesn't mean you're actually at zero, if you were at actual zero, things would start to die and fade quickly. Other organisms utilize nitrates more efficiently than corals do, especially algae, so testing zero can mean a lot of different things. Remember, when testing nutrients, you're testing residuals, not actual. Hobby grade test kits are not that accurate, so it's a range, not precise numbers here.
It's a new tank, so there are a lot of biological processes going on that uptake nutrients, alk, etc....it takes time for this to balance out. So don't start dumping food in hoping to raise nutrients, just safely add another fish or two and feed accordingly. K.I.S.S.
Man this is the first time in this hobby (fishkeeing) that someone has told me TO add a fish haha. In my experience it’s always been low stock=good but in my planted tank experience, the fish are what feed the plants. Perhaps the same could be said for corals. I think I am doing this as right as I can for the rate at which I’m doing it. Gotta remember that no matter what, I’m making nitrates. Everything looks stunning in my tank. Maybe I’ve been floating a good equilibrium. Thou shall not mess’th with when things are happy
 
What’s you WC schedule or Did I miss it? You’re right to want some no3 and po4. My tank finally started maturing when I slacked a little on the WC’s. Maybe take out your filter floss to and watch your params and see what it does
 
Man this is the first time in this hobby (fishkeeing) that someone has told me TO add a fish haha. In my experience it’s always been low stock=good but in my planted tank experience, the fish are what feed the plants. Perhaps the same could be said for corals. I think I am doing this as right as I can for the rate at which I’m doing it. Gotta remember that no matter what, I’m making nitrates. Everything looks stunning in my tank. Maybe I’ve been floating a good equilibrium. Thou shall not mess’th with when things are happy
Just like freshwater, it’s the ammonia (waste) that fuels plants and corals, not nitrates. Nitrates are a residual of the process. For corals to utilize nitrates , I takes a lot of energy, but fish waste is prime food.
 
Feeding is nothing. All the excess food *should* be removed by the filtration. If you feed these corals then upsize the skimmer and you'll be ok. Don't sweat it.
 
What’s you WC schedule or Did I miss it? You’re right to want some no3 and po4. My tank finally started maturing when I slacked a little on the WC’s. Maybe take out your filter floss to and watch your params and see what it does
Listen, this is gonna sound crazy, but I've only done one 5 gallon water change this entire time. I plan to do 5 gallons every other week until I get more LPS.
 
Just like freshwater, it’s the ammonia (waste) that fuels plants and corals, not nitrates. Nitrates are a residual of the process. For corals to utilize nitrates , I takes a lot of energy, but fish waste is prime food.
Yes i love seeing a turd fly straight into my zoa colony. It’s like a treat from the gods
 
Feeding is nothing. All the excess food *should* be removed by the filtration. If you feed these corals then upsize the skimmer and you'll be ok. Don't sweat it.
No skimmer/space for one in my biocube. The middle chamber is a fuge w/ chaeto and intank media basket running chemipure blue some floss and a bag of ceramic
 
You never want phosphates and nitrates to stay at 0 imo. Causes all sorts of issues and corals dont like it. I tried to keep mine at 0 for years until I realized everything in my mixed reef is 100% happier and healthier with some good nutes in the water. I like at least 5-10 minimum on nitrates and .05 phosphates. I know you don't want to dose but dosing is the absolute cleanest way to get them up.

With that said, every tank is different so you have to find what makes your reef happy and stick to it. Keep an eye on your reef, when it's very happy and thriving with minimal nuisance algae do a full spectrum test. That's what levels your corals like, try to keep it stable around those parameters.
 

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