Hey all, recently I've seen a few forums about people who believe their cycle has stalled (most commonly during the nitrite spike). Most people say just to be patient and let it do it's thing. However, I have seen a few people say that high nitrites can actually dramatically slow down, and in some cases even totally stall the cycle process. They say to do water changes until nitrites are under 5ppm to fix this issue. It got me curious if this is true. So what do you guys think? Can extremely high nitrites (or maybe even ammonia?) cause a stall in the cycle?
Can a cycle really stall?
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I'll give you more of the same let it be & it will work out .
Now I don't know chemistry very well . butAs for flat out stopping a cycle? I would doubt it. I think this comes from most are too impatient to wait .
Now I don't know chemistry very well . butAs for flat out stopping a cycle? I would doubt it. I think this comes from most are too impatient to wait .
No cycles don't stall
if they did, every cycle graph on google wouldn't be the same duration.
Try and find a single thread example of a stalled cycle and post it, I've never seen a single verified example.
We must apply antibacterial meds or temp extremes or drying to kill hydrated bac
if we hydrate a system and set it up, we've contaminated it with both bacteria and feed and it takes on a filtration ability in 30-40 days fresh and a bit longer with marine- that's adding nothing directly as both early bacteria and feed sources for ammonia get into the system because it's in a home, not a positive pressure microbiology lab.
All the stuff you see about claimed stalls is really just a mix of mis testing, false readings caused by adulterants like Prime conditioner, and it's people testing various degrees of wastewater and then reporting the cycle certainly stalled all using a mix of accuracy and test verification. None of that occurs in our cycling thread, we don't even use test kits.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-microbiology-of-reef-tank-cycling.214618/
If we use boosters like bottle bac and ammonia, then the deposition of bacteria happens in days not weeks per Dr Reefs testing linked above. If we input nothing at all, and simply wait for natural means to develop, then we directly understand how most aquarium keeping worked in the 60s 70s 80s. 90s was bottle bac era/ buy our product or you can't cycle correctly era
Retail boosters are fine for speed cycling, they're legit. They're also optional as any time you add water to a surface in a home on earth, and wait, you begin a cycle if there are no antibacterial properties in the prep water. Everything we do and make in a home is a fine place for bacteria, and a big open square glass of water and knurled underwater surface area just might be among the best places bac want to be. At thirty days underwater using any degree of boosting, any aquarium is cycled, we just have to test clean tank water (after a water change and redose of ammonia) to see it.
Don't test waste water if you want to get a handle on how aquariums truly cycle.
Literally every cycle article I've ever read is about testing wastewater, so tank cycling is still pretty much in disarray. As soon as someone's nitrite says otherwise, the rules of microbiology have bent for them. We don't test in the right context...even if we bother to shake the reagent correctly and hit the fill line and use the right reference card while standing under non tinted kitchen lighting having never used prime to make the sourcewater
if they did, every cycle graph on google wouldn't be the same duration.
Try and find a single thread example of a stalled cycle and post it, I've never seen a single verified example.
We must apply antibacterial meds or temp extremes or drying to kill hydrated bac
if we hydrate a system and set it up, we've contaminated it with both bacteria and feed and it takes on a filtration ability in 30-40 days fresh and a bit longer with marine- that's adding nothing directly as both early bacteria and feed sources for ammonia get into the system because it's in a home, not a positive pressure microbiology lab.
All the stuff you see about claimed stalls is really just a mix of mis testing, false readings caused by adulterants like Prime conditioner, and it's people testing various degrees of wastewater and then reporting the cycle certainly stalled all using a mix of accuracy and test verification. None of that occurs in our cycling thread, we don't even use test kits.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-microbiology-of-reef-tank-cycling.214618/
If we use boosters like bottle bac and ammonia, then the deposition of bacteria happens in days not weeks per Dr Reefs testing linked above. If we input nothing at all, and simply wait for natural means to develop, then we directly understand how most aquarium keeping worked in the 60s 70s 80s. 90s was bottle bac era/ buy our product or you can't cycle correctly era
Retail boosters are fine for speed cycling, they're legit. They're also optional as any time you add water to a surface in a home on earth, and wait, you begin a cycle if there are no antibacterial properties in the prep water. Everything we do and make in a home is a fine place for bacteria, and a big open square glass of water and knurled underwater surface area just might be among the best places bac want to be. At thirty days underwater using any degree of boosting, any aquarium is cycled, we just have to test clean tank water (after a water change and redose of ammonia) to see it.
Don't test waste water if you want to get a handle on how aquariums truly cycle.
Literally every cycle article I've ever read is about testing wastewater, so tank cycling is still pretty much in disarray. As soon as someone's nitrite says otherwise, the rules of microbiology have bent for them. We don't test in the right context...even if we bother to shake the reagent correctly and hit the fill line and use the right reference card while standing under non tinted kitchen lighting having never used prime to make the sourcewater
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Certainly "extremely high" ammonia will kill everything, including bacteria. Nitrite maybe, but it would need to be very high.
Do you have such an issue? How high is nitrite?
