Can anyone help me identify this?

guitaris70 · Aug 19, 2016

Im not sure if this is just an abrasion or some type of parasite please help it's a Picasso clown which was added today and so was a black Ocellaris clown which has no symptoms of whatever is on the Picasso any help is appreciated they are the only two fish in the tank as my cycle has completed and these are the first additions. 54 gallon corner tank with 80 pounds of live sand 75 pounds of live rock
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melypr1985 · Aug 19, 2016

Is he eating? Breathing heavy at all? Swimming normally? Did he have this at the store when you bought him? The pictures arn't very clear... could be an infection of some sort.

Humblefish · Aug 19, 2016

Brook (very early stages): https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

Humblefish · Aug 19, 2016

I edited the OP to include the images from the external site (I love Xenforo software). Anyway, look especially at these 3 images below:

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

Here's a video I just uploaded with my phone hope it can help! And the little white spots were not my girlfriend said she noticed the little white spot on his head but didn't mention it, I did not originally

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

Haven't tried feeding yet and he appears to be breathing a bit quicker than the other clown

Humblefish · Aug 20, 2016

guitaris70 said:
Haven't tried feeding yet and he appears to be breathing a bit quicker than the other clown

Both clowns need a formalin or acriflavine bath, followed by transfer into a sterile QT. Any other fish in the tank? FW dip is better than nothing if you don't have quick access to the aforementioned chemicals: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

melypr1985 · Aug 20, 2016

Ok. Now I see it.

+1 to Humble's treatment options ^^^

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

Ok thanks! These are the only fish in the aquarium as they are the first additions does the whole display need to be treated now?

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

Will seachem's paraguard also work to treat this?

Humblefish · Aug 20, 2016

guitaris70 said:
Ok thanks! These are the only fish in the aquarium as they are the first additions does the whole display need to be treated now?

You can't treat for this in the DT; it now needs to be left fallow (fishless) for 6 weeks. Following the FW dip/chemical bath, you need to place both fish in a QT.

guitaris70 said:
Will seachem's paraguard also work to treat this?

Possibly, but I cannot guarantee that as I have only experimented with FW dips, acriflavine & formalin baths for brook.

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

So is it likely the disease/parasite is in the display tank but needs to have the fish to survive ? So by placing them in QT it would die off in the display after treating fish in Qt

domination2580 · Aug 20, 2016

Brook is the culprit. Humble and melypr has it

domination2580 · Aug 20, 2016

guitaris70 said:
So is it likely the disease/parasite is in the display tank but needs to have the fish to survive ? So by placing them in QT it would die off in the display after treating fish in Qt

It will die off only if the tank is left fallow for 76 days.

Humblefish · Aug 20, 2016

guitaris70 said:
So is it likely the disease/parasite is in the display tank but needs to have the fish to survive ? So by placing them in QT it would die off in the display after treating fish in Qt

Exactly. The parasite literally starves without a fish host to feed upon. But the fish still needs treatment (in a QT) to rid itself of the parasite. Or ideally, do one of the baths to force the parasite off the fish and then transfer the fish into a "clean" QT that hasn't been infected.

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

Updated video today do you still think it's brook?

Humblefish · Aug 20, 2016

guitaris70 said:
Updated video today do you still think it's brook?

I do, yes. I also think that clownfish isn't going to last much longer. Has he gotten any treatment?

guitaris70 · Aug 20, 2016

Yes treating with seachem paraguard found a few articles that said people were successful because I couldn't find the remedies you mentioned for treatment but all his small white speckles went away 6 hours into the first treatment dosing now it's just the thick spot near his head, other clown has no symptoms as of yet but could be incubation period

Humblefish · Aug 20, 2016

guitaris70 said:
Yes treating with seachem paraguard found a few articles that said people were successful because I couldn't find the remedies you mentioned for treatment but all his small white speckles went away 6 hours into the first treatment dosing now it's just the thick spot near his head, other clown has no symptoms as of yet but could be incubation period

I'm suspicious of Paraguard because Seachem is so ambiguous about what is in it. "ParaGuard™ employs a proprietary, synergistic blend of aldehydes, malachite green, and fish protective polymers" according to their website. I know a little about malachite green, but what the heck are aldehydes & fish protective polymers?

I guess I'm just more comfortable using formalin or acriflavine because I know exactly what those chemicals will and won't do.