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Jon Fishman

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I guess I’m looking for a general consensus on what to do here.

Had a Tang, lost a tang, swore off tangs, now I am looking at a tang.......

Long story short, I got a Powder Blue with the plan to upgrade from my 75g to a bigger tank (which I have now done)

75g has well established rock, lots of coralline etc, and a big heathy BTA, no algae concerns, it was running great, coral doing fine.

I had quite a bit of rock in the 75 (again planning ahead for upgrade) and it had a 3” or so sandbed.

Everything in the 75 was a culmination of what the previous owner ran for years, plus the 40# of rock from my previous tank that I got used also, that was running well for 12+ years (so all rock was very established lots of growth, etc). Good pod population etc you name it..... tank had it.

well, with 100# of rock in the 75, it was pretty cramped in there. I also had a Lemon Chromis and a Sharpnose Puffer, and pair of Flurry Clowns

I put the Powder Blue in the tank from a LFS that had it in a tank for 4+ months (they write on the tanks) I know that says NOTHING for other fish that may or may not have come and gone in that time.

The powder blue did great. Grazed, etc. never saw a problem with it. I had it 2 months maybe. I went to work, came home 14 hours later, found it with the skin basically falling off like the guy in Indiana Jones....... I also think the cramped tank stressed it, but I’m no fish-whisperer

Within an hour it went from swimming sideways, to floating into the side of a powerhead, to death......

My first and only disease death I have had.

That was about 2.5 months ago...... After it died, the Puffer, clowns and Chromis remained in the tank, and shortly after (not long I would say) I removed both Flurry clowns and my BTA and put them in a Nano. They did fine, but one kept picking on the other (I thought it was a mating thing)

The smaller clown eventually decided to try life on the outside, and my dog brought it to my daughter as a gift........

So, to recap, 1 clown in a Nano (20g RSR) with a BTA that eventually split, and a 75 with a sharpnose and a Chromis

So, new tank is finally done, so 75g gets drained, and rocks/coral and inverts go into the new tank.

I took the Puffer to the LFS and donated him, and put the Chromis in the Nano. So that has been maybe 2 weeks at this point?

So, from 2.5 months ago with the death of the Powder Blue (which I FW dipped and found no flukes) No new fish were added, but also every fish in the tank with it have shown zero signs of disease.

With the take-down of the 75g, the filling of the new tank happened. The rocks were given a quick check-up for unwanted critters and placed in the new tank, which is bare-bottom. So I have 100% water-change, new tank, old rocks + inverts

It’s been about 2 weeks, and the plan, was to just grow coral and keep it fallow for 3 months because I had the Powder Blue die from something I was never able to identify......

Well, a Purple Tang has been offered to me for basically nothing, but the money for the fish is the least of my concerns....... I don’t want to just expose it to ???????????


What is the likelihood of disaster, or I guess, best yet, if I were to add just this one fish, and monitor for disease for a couple months, what do you think the chances are that my tank has ich or whatever, and despite 100% waterchange, my tank absolutely needs 3-months of fallow time or I am basically throwing them into toxic blender of death?

If I had ANY problems with the Puffer/Chromis/Clown that stayed wet, then it wouldn’t make me think twice about waiting for a full fallow cycle.

With a bit of honesty, who here would roll the dice for a free Purple Tang?
 
Since the purple tang is so low cost, I would go out and get a small 40b or 29/20long and keep him there until the display is ready!
 
I am by no means an expert but by your description, it sounds like your powder blue developed HHLE. We don't fully understand why it happens other than a general idea of stress, stray voltage, genetic predisposition etc. I would say go for it, however I would QT it before releasing it into your main display
 
Where are you located in Cleveland? Im over in Mayfield Heights and can toss you some marinepure gems from my QT and some marinepure spheres from my nanos
 
Where are you located in Cleveland? Im over in Mayfield Heights and can toss you some marinepure gems from my QT and some marinepure spheres from my nanos

In Lakewood, but if all I need for QT is some of my rock, I have enough in the sump alone for that! I guess I need yet another tank....... ugh
 
If there is potential a disease in your display I wouldn’t use rock from there in the QT. There are a bunch of bottled bacteria that can quick start a cycle as well. Monitor ammonia and keep it well oxygenated and you can set one up fairly quickly
 
If there is potential a disease in your display I wouldn’t use rock from there in the QT.
Ah. That makes sense as well. Shoot...... How “quick” is quick-start. I get the impression that this fish isn’t gonna be around long. If I have to let someone else take it, so be it, but I do like the Purple Tangs
 
I am setting up a 55g QT, with borrowed rocks!
If you are going to use copper, (which I highly recommend with Tangs) you do not want rock or sand or anything besides your filter, heater and some PVC pipe for hiding. My Purple Tang had Marine Velvet when I got it and I didn't realize it until two days later when it was covered with them. Luckily I had it in copper from day 1 and he survived. My Powder Blue Tang had Marine Velvet as well and my Achilles and Whitetail Bristletooth Tangs had Ich. My first Hippo Tang died of a combination of Hole in Head Lateral Line Disease and some bacterial disease and the second one, (that survived) had Ich.

I got all my Tangs from different LFS's and one from Divers Den so I cannot blame it on one LFS having disease in their system. They must have been infected when collected or gotten it somewhere in the chain of custody along the way to my tank. Either way, I would highly recommend treating with Copper for 30 days then PraziPro or API General Cure then observe it for a couple weeks. By then the Fallow period of your tank should be done and the fish should be ready to go in.
 

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