Can paint fuel phosphates?

[Reefnewb]

I painted the inside of my canopy with kilz and my phosphates are off the charts, so can paint fuel phosphates? Random question I know but just thought I'd ask... thank you!

 

[Katrina71]

Just curious did you use oil based kilz?

 

[Katrina71]

I used it once years ago. The fumes were really strong.

 

[Reefnewb]

Just curious did you use oil based kilz?

I believe it was... not sure tho. It dried for a month before I put it on the tank. And nothing else is affected all fish and coral are perfectly fine. The only problem is high phosphates

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

After it's cured it shouldn't be a problem. I don't know, but wouldn't think organic phosphate would be soluble to the point of arisolizing even wet.

 

[Reefnewb]

After it's cured it shouldn't be a problem. I don't know, but wouldn't think organic phosphate would be soluble to the point of arisolizing even wet.

Yea I didn't think so.... I'm coming up with sorts of theroies lol.... phosphates must be coming from my rock that's all I can narrow it down to...

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Was it old rock?

 

[Reefnewb]

Was it old rock?

I do not know the age of the rock but I got from a guy that had it in his 700g tank and the tank was running perfectly fine

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I suppose I meant used, not old.

Yea phosphates bind to rock and sand. So it's possible. A lot of folks have no prob with high phosphates.

 

[Reefnewb]

I suppose I meant used, not old.

Yea phosphates bind to rock and sand. So it's possible. A lot of folks have no prob with high phosphates.

Mine are like 60ppb (0.18 ppm) sooo way to high for me... I'm thinking about siphioning all the sand out slowly over a couple weeks and then slowly adding new live rock to the tank and taking the old out over the course of a couple months. Does that sound like a good plan to you?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

My po4 is .25.

Why do want to lower it. The number on the test or somthing actually wrong.

 

[Reefnewb]

My po4 is .25.

Why do want to lower it. The number on the test or somthing actually wrong.

Bubbles coming from sand major hair algae outbreak glass needs to be cleaned every couple hours...

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Po4 is not the bubbles btw.
Hair algae and glass yea part of it.
Are you running a scrubber or fuge?

Gha will survive in low nutrints btw. Just limits growth.
You need CUC and manual removal for that.

 

[Reefnewb]

so you don't think that the high phosphates cause a bacteria bloom and caused the bubbles?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Nope. Phosphate doesn't work like that.
Bacteria blooms come form sudden carbon source introduction.

Bubbles I don't know. We'd have to talk about that one. Could in fact be actual nitrogen gas.
Or co2.

 

[Reefnewb]

I don't carbon dose or add anything to the tank other than GFO. nothing I can think of that I add to the tank would do this.

 

[Cory]

I dont think paint uses phosphorus at all.

It would be likely to be that rocks organics.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

How old is it?

And pictures help.

Keep in mind. It may just be normal. Unless it chronic bubbling or cyano and really odd stuff

 

[Reefnewb]

The tank is roughly 6 months old but the rocks are unknown. I'm thinking it is something with the rock tho. The bubbles really start coming later in the day once the lights been on for awhile so I'm leaning towards some kind of cyano fueled but the phosphates? I would like to sent a pic but the bubbles don't really show up on the camera it's weird! But they rise from the sand bed every couple of seconds. So annoying lol

 

[Cory]

The tank is roughly 6 months old but the rocks are unknown. I'm thinking it is something with the rock tho. The bubbles really start coming later in the day once the lights been on for awhile so I'm leaning towards some kind of cyano fueled but the phosphates? I would like to sent a pic but the bubbles don't really show up on the camera it's weird! But they rise from the sand bed every couple of seconds. So annoying lol

You can try a dark soak in saltwater. Just keep changing until po4 reads low. Or a full on muriatic acid and water bath to remove po4.