cannot get Kessil A360W to work with breakout box

billygalaxy · Nov 30, 2023

Title pretty much sums it up.
I've watched the video that everything links to about how to wire it up and connect it about a dozen times.
Seems pretty straight forward, but I cannot get it to work no matter what I try.
Any help is appreciated.

Lasse · Dec 1, 2023

Can you take some photo of your wiring and connecting? Plus some screenshots from your configuration.

Sincerely Lasse

billygalaxy · Dec 1, 2023

Here are some photos, hopefully there is a clue to the problem...

Lasse · Dec 1, 2023

It looks like you do not have any ground (-) connected to the Kessil Cable. I can´t see if blue and white is connected to ground or not. It should look like this. If it is connect - forget this advise

If they are connected and you use 1-10V L3/L4 - you should put your RJ12 contact into the L3/L4 connector on the p4 (red marking) If you use L1/L2 put it into the left and for L5/L6 - to the right of the red marking

Hope this will help you

Is it this video you have looked at?

Sincerely Lasse

billygalaxy · Dec 1, 2023

Thanks,
That is the video that I watched numerous times.
I disassembled and rewired everything just to be sure I didn't make a mistake somewhere.
Still does not work when plugged in to profilux

Lasse · Dec 2, 2023

Have you access to a multimeter? I think its time for a a classic error finding. First find out if there is a 1-10V signal coming out from P4. Connect the RJ12 to an outlet of P4 and to the breakout box. Put both channels to be at 50 %. You should have around 5 V between ground and each of the 1-10V contacts. if so check the contact on the other side of the kessil cable. If you put in the Kessil cable contact into the 1-10V inlet of the Kessil - does it block the manual opportunity to adjust the light

I´ll tag @Ditto - its time for him to check in

Sincerely Lasse

billygalaxy · Dec 2, 2023

If I plug the connector into the Kessil, it just goes black.
Will have a multimeter by Monday.

Lasse · Dec 2, 2023

When you test on Monday - try the L1/L2 and L5/L6 outlets too

By the way - already now - Set illumination X to be steady 50 %. You need to put in at least 2 breakpoints 00.00 = 50 % 12.00 = 50 % otherwise (with only one breakpoint) it will give you 0 in output. Make L1 - L6 answer to Illumination x. Uncheck also all simulation boxes. See if it works now, In your programming - it says bright is 0. I´ll think it must be over 0 - otherwise the colour channel does not have anything to blend. Try to do as obove and test

When you do a lighting schedule you need to first define when it should be the lowest - in my case 8:00 = 0 and 20:00 = 0. After that you define the first active breakpoint - in my case 10:00 = 50 % and the last - in my case 18:00 = 50 %. Of cause you can enter more breakpoints if yo want. In my case - the channel starts to ramp up at 8:00 - react 50 % att 10:00 - start to ramp down at 18:00 and react zero at 20:00

Sincerely Lasse

billygalaxy · Dec 5, 2023

Everything appears OK with the multimeter. Kessil still blacks out as soon as I plug in cable.

DFR · Dec 5, 2023

Your screenshot shows Illumination 3 at 0%. Do you have a schedule programmed for that Illumination Channel? That channel controls the brightness, so at 0 it’ll essentially be off.

billygalaxy · Dec 5, 2023

DFR said:
Your screenshot shows Illumination 3 at 0%. Do you have a schedule programmed for that Illumination Channel? That channel controls the brightness, so at 0 it’ll essentially be off.

Currently set to 50% as per @Lasse 's instructions

DFR · Dec 5, 2023

Everything else looks good to me.
We can see if anyone else has ideas. But you could also try rewiring it using the other set of terminals on the BOB to rule out any issues with that section of the board.

Lasse · Dec 5, 2023

Can you check 1-10 on the "pin" you pot in to the 1-10 V inlet of your Kessil? You need ti find GND an the two 1-10V channels

Sincerely Lasse

Vinny@GHLUSA · Dec 6, 2023

billygalaxy said:
Here are some photos, hopefully there is a clue to the problem...

It's hard to tell from this picture if your WHITE and GREEN cable are connected to the GND... it should be.

Black: 1-10V 1 terminal
White / Green: GND terminal
Red: 1-10V 2 terminal

billygalaxy · Dec 10, 2023

Thanks so much for helping me troubleshoot my light issues — I really appreciate everyone’s input but I’m still not having any luck getting them to work through the P4. To make sure I’m not overlooking anything, I have tried to provide a detailed explanation of what I have tried with photos/screenshots to help you see where I’ve overlooked something.

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SET-UP

I updated the P4 controller to the newest firmware update.

I have checked and rechecked the wiring numerous times to the breakout box. Here is a photo from today when my g/f rewired it again to make sure I didn’t screw anything up:

In case it’s not obvious from the photo:
* Black wire goes to Switch 1/1-10V 1
* Green and white wires are together, going to Switch 2/GND
* Red wire goes to Switch 4/1-10V 2

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SCENARIO 1: following Ditto’s video on Youtube that was linked above (connecting through L3L4 port)

Breakout box connected to L3L4 port

From 1-10V-Interfaces menu

From Illumination…>Illumination channels menu

Illumination 4 for color

And the resulting graph:

Illumination 3 for brightness

And the resulting graph:

billygalaxy · Dec 10, 2023

SCENARIO 2: Following Lasse’s suggestions from 12/1/23 in the thread

Breakout box connected to L5L6 port

Per Lasse’s suggestion, I used a multimeter to check there is a 1-10V signal coming from profilux/1-10V “pin” that gets plugged into the kessel lights. Here is a photo of the multimeter checking with the L5L6 set up described below checking the connector/pin: