Caribbean anemone hosting a clownfish

[chubbyhubby]

I have a caribbean anemone or so i think . Any way my male clown has been hovering over it for the last few days will he host it . The clown has been in tank with female for around 8mths had the Caribbean anemone for around 4 week's.

now the female seems to be paying interest in it as well .

 

[chubbyhubby]

I have a caribbean anemone or so i think . Any way my male clown has been hovering over it for the last few days will he host it . The clown has been in tank with female for around 8mths had the Caribbean anemone for around 4 week's.

now the female seems to be paying interest in it as well .

 

[chubbyhubby]

Can any one shed any light on it please

 

[ReeferMadness80G]

What exactly is your question?

 

[badd]

Clowns will use anything as a host.. a rock..a corner..they really are strange fish... they might try to use nem as host.. and just to be clear.. clown use things as host... clowns dont host anything

 

[Tahoe61]

Some clowns and domino damsel will reside in Condylatis, although Condylactis is not a natural host. Condylactis is also capable of eating fish.

 

[Tom Blevins]

Our snowflakes use a clay pot.

 

[chubbyhubby]

Ok thanks for the help what nem is good for common clown them

 

[tomtom2245]

Ok thanks for the help what nem is good for common clown them

Bubble tips are a good bet. They come in a ton of color options and are pretty hardy.

 

[Jason mack]

I have a caribbean anemone or so i think . Any way my male clown has been hovering over it for the last few days will he host it . The clown has been in tank with female for around 8mths had the Caribbean anemone for around 4 week's.

now the female seems to be paying interest in it as well .

They sure will !!!

 

[chubbyhubby]

So are the fish safe with the condy nem

 

[Tahoe61]

Sounds like they are acclimating to the anemones sting, developing the coating that prevents the anemone from recognizing the fish as a food source. If the clowns are in physical contact with the anemone, they are probably safe. It's the unknowing clown that has not been hosted by anemone with the powerful sting that Condylactis have. I have had clowns upon their introduction dive into anemones, carpets, BTA, Condylactic, only to be stung and become a meal. I have also seen clowns newly introduced to an unfamiliar anemone dive right in and live happily ever after.

 

[chubbyhubby]

Thanks tahoe61 makes alot of sense. Does it take long to build up

 

[Jason mack]

Thanks tahoe61 makes alot of sense. Does it take long to build up

Once they start .. they don't stop

 

[Tahoe61]

Thanks tahoe61 makes alot of sense. Does it take long to build up

Really wish I could give you a definite answer. It seems like clown and anemone relationship is still not completely understood. The development of the protective coating and what exactly that coating does, and is, does not seem to be definitive. The only conclusion is that the anemone no longer recognizes the presence of the clown, the coating prevents the anemone from sensing the clown as either a protein, or carb/sugar. The nematocycst are not fired by the anemone.

Interestingly, even clownfish that are innately protected exhibit this “acclimation behavior.” After initial contact, they acquire antigens from the anemone they have encountered. It has been proposed that these antigens serve as a type of “chemical camouflage” for the fish. With the acquisition of these antigens, the anemone is no longer able to distinguish between itself and the clownfish. The result is that the anenome no longer reacts to the fish by stinging. https://asknature.org/strategy/mucus-coat-protects-from-sea-anemone/

Based on everything I have read or seen on the subject leads me to believe there is more than one explanation for why some clowns do fine with a new anemone and others clowns are stung upon introduction.

 

[chubbyhubby]

Getting some great help . Thanks . As long as the fish are ok if there in a high risk id sooner swap the nem at my lfs for a bta

 

[badd]

My blenny would lay on the condy.. and clowns would ignore... so its all hit or miss.. but I would say pretty safe..unless clown is really small.. lol.. but I can say.. with bta..I dont feel a thing...but with the condy..it would feel like a small shock..if I touched it..

 

[chubbyhubby]

Funny you say about your blenny. Iv noticed tonight my royal gramy hiding under the condy