Thanks, Yeah I don't frag my chalices much. Most of them have never been or only been fragged once and never more than twice. I just want to see them grow as large as they can without crowding before fragging them. Plus they can cost a fortune still. Others I paid a premium for 100 per eye and now they sell for 40 an eye (Bubblegum Monster, Miami Hurricane). Most of them have came from wild colonies, except for the named ones I listed and a couple not really shown in the picts. That Hollywood Stunner colony is easily 18" across and a foot top to bottom, and has started plating like a monti cap. The Tubbs Alien Eye is like 9" x 5". The amazing part is all of them started from 1/2" - 3/4" frags. Will post some better picts soon, these were snapped in 10 mins and just posted from a canon point and shoot. Need to get some good SLR picts of them