chemi clean and RFA...will it work?

[Devaji]

Hi all,
so I am having a cyano out break pretty bad in my 20 gallon RFA tank as I main tank build is taking to along to get up and going & i added the fish I had to it. long story there...

I would like to get/keep the tank clean so the GF dont hate the hobby and give me problems with the big tank. so is chemi clean ok to use with RFAs?

I did do a search but nothing came up on this topic.
cheers

 

[Devaji]

anyone? I would like to get this ordered today. I know most of the time its coral safe but not sure about inverts like RFA's?

 

[brandon429]

A deep clean will beat any additive. Want to do a rip clean? about 300 cyano fixes logged with it. Chemi clean works sometimes and kills the corals sometimes, but rip cleans just have clean tanks at the end the example threads show.

if you demand no work it’s ok to try chemi clean, but if willing to effect a clean then it’s free and much safer. The trick is we clean it all, at once, not in partials. Using chemi clean is a specific safety risk, embedded among successes under searches for chemi clean killed my tank/coral

there aren’t any losses for rip clean killed my coral because we run them so carefully.

 

[Devaji]

A deep clean will beat any additive. Want to do a rip clean? about 300 cyano fixes logged with it. Chemi clean works sometimes and kills the corals sometimes, but rip cleans just have clean tanks at the end the example threads show.

if you demand no work it’s ok to try chemi clean, but if willing to effect a clean then it’s free and much safer. The trick is we clean it all, at once, not in partials. Using chemi clean is a specific safety risk, embedded among successes under searches for chemi clean killed my tank/coral

there aren’t any losses for rip clean killed my coral because we run them so carefully.

yeah I thought about doing a RIP clean. the poor tank has seen better days. all my RFA are moving all over the tank and hiding + the cyano.

I went ahead and ordered it IDK if I will use it or not. I do have to move the nano for the new couch so at that time i was gonna do a complete RIP clean anyway.

I forgot do you use RODI or tap water for sand bed rinse? I had read though the RIP clean thread but its been awhile.

 

[homer1475]

Ive used chemiclean and have plenty of RFA's. Never had any issues other then they don't care for 3 days of lights out.

 

[brandon429]

This w save a huge read hours to get a six line summary lol:

can use much less chemi clean when the tank is clean, use it as growback prevention if the clean doesn’t fix it. Better than mass kill plus internal rot, less can be used in the clean state.

if you are using any degree of normal live rock, then removing your sandbed all at once wouldn’t even matter. This is 150 of the few hundred jobs in the thread. Live rocks handle sand removal just fine, we never remove in sections, that offer got made up one day and stuck in the hobby, we remove our sandbeds all at once for the bare bottom request jobs. We never remove sand while water is in the tank

the tank is taken down first and fish are in buckets.


your sand would be rinsed in tap water until 100% clean. Then ro at the end, don’t waste ro on expendable surface area you don’t need, use tap so you can get clean. It takes probably sixty gallons of rinse water to clean a sandbed from a nano, you’ll see. Tap then ro

dont get clouding in contact with fish or corals as you take down for cleaning, be surgical and isolating sensitives from waste clouds.

reassemble all new water. Perfect sand. The same rocks which you swished off in saltwater clean of the cyano then a quick mist of peroxide on the clean surfaces to hit leftover cells go back in on the sand. Will not harm your filter bac, peroxide doesn’t.

add back fish and corals

if your anemones are attached to rocks then just twist them in saltwater so the cyano comes off and skip the peroxide on that rock. You are simply re assembling a totally clean nano knowing the bacteria on the rocks are always enough, what you do to sand doesn’t matter as long as it’s not under done.

lastly, ramp your lights down to half power and come back slowly in the clean tank.

any chemi clean you dose to a reef that has cyano, which is fueled by waste in the rocks and sand, simply kills off the top coat to make another layer of waste. If the tank is new, then it can store several layers before gha kicks in but not for long

rip cleaning helps prevent dinos and gha and other issues at the same time you are forcing your tank to look like you want. We’ve simply removed the fear of losing bacteria, that’s been over hyped, rip cleaning makes for sharp nanos.

 

[Devaji]

I might give it a go then. I get a brute can of RODI filling up as we speak. so I 'll have plenty of water on hand.
how much of the old water are you guys adding back? or is it a 100% refil with fresh SW?

i'll go look for the thread...

 

[brandon429]

100% new water, or 50 50 your call. The water isn’t too full of detritus so we mainly attack the sand in tap and the rocks in saltwater so that high surface area sinks are cleaned out. It all looks so clean and sharp w new water. Age it, circulate it nicely before use matching temp and salinity to old.


as you are rinsing the tap and sand over, and over, and over in a paint bucket w hose lol or tub options range youll be feeling internally: this guy is crazy

this guy is crazy


this guy is crazy

but if you press on and just blast the sand clean and last hit with RO, you’ll see that the assumptions were true but your nano looks sharp next day anyway. Drop the light levels work back

if you use the normal pounds of live rock a nano uses, sight unseen the cleaning is safe. We have never seen a nano that didn’t meet this criteria. Literally every one has five or ten pounds more than needed

 

[Devaji]

100% new water, or 50 50 your call. The water isn’t too full of detritus so we mainly attack the sand in tap and the rocks in saltwater so that high surface area sinks are cleaned out. It all looks so clean and sharp w new water. Age it, circulate it nicely before use matching temp and salinity to old.


as you are rinsing the tap and sand over, and over, and over in a paint bucket w hose lol or tub options range youll be feeling internally: this guy is crazy

this guy is crazy


this guy is crazy

but if you press on and just blast the sand clean and last hit with RO, you’ll see that the assumptions were true but your nano looks sharp next day anyway. Drop the light levels work back

if you use the normal pounds of live rock a nano uses, sight unseen the cleaning is safe. We have never seen a nano that didn’t meet this criteria. Literally every one has five or ten pounds more than needed

thanks for the info my friend I need to do this. i'll take some video and document it so we have a visual. might be a while still need to see when the new couch is getting in so I dont do it to much to fast...