Chemipure elite and phosban
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nervousmonkey
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Run em both. You're fine doing that. Why are you adding the chemipure? I like running it, just wondering... Keeps my tank cleaner, at least in my head it does and sometimes that's all that matters. 
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I was told that I should run it because I got anemones in the tank and it will help the tank if they put their toxins in the tank and I was using tap water and it has phosphate in it and I'm currently switching over to rodi so I've got a little bit of algae in the tank and my phosphate are at 36 so this is why I'm gonna run it
nervousmonkey
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Phosphate at 36? That must be a typo... Good reasons to run chemipure, but plain ol Carbon would remove toxins as well. You could also try using a poly filter pad (http://m.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4335) to see what's in your tank from the tap water. They change colors depending on what's in your water. As far as high phosphates go, if you're running phosban and still have a super high level of PO4, there is something else going on. Tap water can exacerbate a PO4 issue, but with high levels even with phosban, I think you have something else going on.
Chemipure is good stuff man, but the RODI water will help more than anything. Once you get that up and running, if it were me, I'd just keep mixing batches of fresh saltwater and do large water changes. All of the other stuff (chemipure, phosban, etc.) is just putting a bandaid on. Sounds like a necessary bandaid but those won't fix the issue.
Would you mind retesting the PO4 levels? What kit are you using to test? Also, a picture of the algae would help to ID what kind it is and what the real issue is...
And you don't need expensive chemipure for coral and livestock toxins, just get some good carbon and run that in a reactor. Keep us posted Randy!
Chemipure is good stuff man, but the RODI water will help more than anything. Once you get that up and running, if it were me, I'd just keep mixing batches of fresh saltwater and do large water changes. All of the other stuff (chemipure, phosban, etc.) is just putting a bandaid on. Sounds like a necessary bandaid but those won't fix the issue.
Would you mind retesting the PO4 levels? What kit are you using to test? Also, a picture of the algae would help to ID what kind it is and what the real issue is...
And you don't need expensive chemipure for coral and livestock toxins, just get some good carbon and run that in a reactor. Keep us posted Randy!
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Chemipure Elite has both GFO and chemipure in it. Phosban is GFO. So just be sure you do not drop phosphate too low using both. Why not use regular Chemipure if you are also using Phosban?
FWIW, having an anemone does not mean you need Chemipure, and it isn't at all clear that anemones release toxins to the water.
That said, what type of anemone are you talking about?
FWIW, having an anemone does not mean you need Chemipure, and it isn't at all clear that anemones release toxins to the water.
That said, what type of anemone are you talking about?
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I'm not sure what the phosphate are on the tank with the phosban and the algae isn't that bad in that tank but my 30 gallon tank that has no media reacter on it is at 36 cause I tested it and I took it to the fish store and they tested it and we both got the same so it definitely is and I'm using a test kit that's a good one cause they said that it was and I'm not at my house right now to tell you the brand but when I get there I'll check it out and tell you but we both got the same result for the 30 gallon and that tank is the one with alot of brown algae on the rocks but the 55 gallon only has a little bit of algae and that's because I'm running phosban in the media reactor but I want to get rid of the rest and your saying that you don't have to run chemipure if you got anemones cause the fish store said you should run it just in case they put their toxins in the tank cause it will get rid of them and I got a bubbletip tip anemone and 2 pretty big sabae anemones
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You must mean 0.36 ppm phosphate. No aquarium kit can detect 36 ppm.
There's nothing wrong with using an organic binding material in a reef tank. These include chemipure, GAC (granular carbon), Purigen, and others, but anemones are not a specific reason. The LFS is wrong (IMO) about the anemones being a particular concern, but anything that dies should be removed before "toxins" like ammonia are produced. These anemones do not just suddenly put toxins in the water.
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You assumed wrong. Some methods can give 36 ppb phosphorus as the result. I will assume that was not it, but could still be wrong.
I'd suggest you read through some threads in the anemone forum to get some additional advice compared to just the LFS. Bear in mind they want to sell products.
https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/anemone-clownfish-discussion.182/
nervousmonkey
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No, you don't have to soak chemipure overnight but just make sure you rinse it super well or else you'll have black dust everywhere in your tank.
I agree with Dr. Randy on this one. Your LFS just wanted to sell you something or they have no idea what they're talking abou or both. Corals can release toxins to fight each other, aka allelopathy. Research that term to give you an idea of how corals kill each other in the fight for space. An example article: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00571194
As for anemone allelopathy, it's pretty localized as they have a pretty nasty sting; they don't release toxins per se, but when they die they can release nematocysts, which are pretty nasty to other life in your tank. But you would remove a dead anemone anyway. Another article re: anemones from this forum a few years ago: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/overcoming-anemone-allelopathy.69791/
and one more for fun, but from another forum. Either way it's educational: http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?153667-A-Short-Beginners-Guide-To-Anemone-Keeping
Your LFS isn't giving you great advice, at least not on this issue. It's fine to run multiple media together, a lot of people do it including me. But I am pretty sure that chemipure won't filter out nematocysts. And it definitely won't assist your anemones if they do decide to wage war on each other. Just keep reading up on anemones and what makes them happy and what makes them upset. Keep the chemipure, but maybe save it for something other than "anemone toxins". Just keep them happy, run carbon and if you notice one of your nems getting ill or dying, remove it quick. You won't be able to miss it, a sick or dying anemone has a smell to it that will make you want to vomit, and rather violently I might add.
I agree with Dr. Randy on this one. Your LFS just wanted to sell you something or they have no idea what they're talking abou or both. Corals can release toxins to fight each other, aka allelopathy. Research that term to give you an idea of how corals kill each other in the fight for space. An example article: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00571194
As for anemone allelopathy, it's pretty localized as they have a pretty nasty sting; they don't release toxins per se, but when they die they can release nematocysts, which are pretty nasty to other life in your tank. But you would remove a dead anemone anyway. Another article re: anemones from this forum a few years ago: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/overcoming-anemone-allelopathy.69791/
and one more for fun, but from another forum. Either way it's educational: http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?153667-A-Short-Beginners-Guide-To-Anemone-Keeping
Your LFS isn't giving you great advice, at least not on this issue. It's fine to run multiple media together, a lot of people do it including me. But I am pretty sure that chemipure won't filter out nematocysts. And it definitely won't assist your anemones if they do decide to wage war on each other. Just keep reading up on anemones and what makes them happy and what makes them upset. Keep the chemipure, but maybe save it for something other than "anemone toxins". Just keep them happy, run carbon and if you notice one of your nems getting ill or dying, remove it quick. You won't be able to miss it, a sick or dying anemone has a smell to it that will make you want to vomit, and rather violently I might add.
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Just rinse it well. You can use tap water to rinse it; don't waste the RO water you bought for rinsing out the chemipure. There will a LOT of black dust, it'll take you a good 10-15 minutes to get it rinsed off. Also, hint for your significant other: don't do it in a sink that she'll see immediately and be ready to clean the black out of the sink quick. 
Yep, rinse it out then put in a high flow area of your sump, otherwise it's effects will be diminished greatly.
This is for your 30 gallon with no reactors, correct? It should work pretty quickly, but to get your phosphates down from 0.36, which is pretty high, I would recommend something else like phosban. Actually, phosguard works pretty well too; it is designed solely for reduction of phosphates and silicates, while chemipure elite is an all in one media. It can do a lot of things pretty well, but not one thing super well, so if your sole purpose is phosphate reduction, I'd go with something else. I know that on Christmas Day that's not what you want to hear, but it sounds like you're ready to get the chemipure in the sump, so just rinse with tap water, actually you almost have to scrub it against itself to get all the dust off.
So just rinse and put it in the sump! Good luck man. I wish I could help more, but I don't have much here to go with other than anemones alive in the tank and phosphate reduction as a goal.
Also, are you sure that the brown algae isn't diatoms? That sounds more like diatoms to me, which is a silicate issue, which would be fixed with phosguard. If you want, PM me and we can chat there about it. Send me a picture to work with also. I don't care what the tank looks like, just want to help you with what you need.
Yep, rinse it out then put in a high flow area of your sump, otherwise it's effects will be diminished greatly.
This is for your 30 gallon with no reactors, correct? It should work pretty quickly, but to get your phosphates down from 0.36, which is pretty high, I would recommend something else like phosban. Actually, phosguard works pretty well too; it is designed solely for reduction of phosphates and silicates, while chemipure elite is an all in one media. It can do a lot of things pretty well, but not one thing super well, so if your sole purpose is phosphate reduction, I'd go with something else. I know that on Christmas Day that's not what you want to hear, but it sounds like you're ready to get the chemipure in the sump, so just rinse with tap water, actually you almost have to scrub it against itself to get all the dust off.
So just rinse and put it in the sump! Good luck man. I wish I could help more, but I don't have much here to go with other than anemones alive in the tank and phosphate reduction as a goal.
Also, are you sure that the brown algae isn't diatoms? That sounds more like diatoms to me, which is a silicate issue, which would be fixed with phosguard. If you want, PM me and we can chat there about it. Send me a picture to work with also. I don't care what the tank looks like, just want to help you with what you need.
