Chemipure Elite in 16 gallon

[Mikemilly245]

Just bought some chemipure elite to combat some cyano I have per a suggestion on here. The back of the canister says use one bag for up to 25 gallons. I’m using it in a Biocube 16, do I need to worry about overdosing ? Can I just throw a bag in there and be good or should I cut it open and dump some out into a media bag measured for 16 gallons…
Let me know

 

[Jekyl]

Just bought some chemipure elite to combat some cyano I have per a suggestion on here. The back of the canister says use one bag for up to 25 gallons. I’m using it in a Biocube 16, do I need to worry about overdosing ? Can I just throw a bag in there and be good or should I cut it open and dump some out into a media bag measured for 16 gallons…
Let me know

What is your current phosphate reading?

Chemipure elite won't directly combat cyano. It it used to reduce phosphate and regulate nitrate.

P.S while controlling parameters is key, live phyto worked on my cyano and algae issues.

 

[nothing_fancy]

For a tank that size I would have gone with chemi pure blue, but you're fine. I second the phyto. If this system is fairly new you're going to go through cyano I wouldn't stress on it, expect it to potentially last a while. Definitely avoid algicides like chemi clean or any of that stuff. Live phyto and pods are good to try and personally I think live phyto is key long term.

 

[Mikemilly245]

What is your current phosphate reading?

Chemipure elite won't directly combat cyano. It it used to reduce phosphate and regulate nitrate.

P.S while controlling parameters is key, live phyto worked on my cyano and algae issues.

Not sure on current phosphate reading, but I’m using chemipure elite mostly to try to balance phosphates and nitrates. I’ve been scraping off the cyano for about a month now during water changes and screwing with the lights and it’s still growing back at relatively the same rate. Should I just keep manually removing it?

 

[Mikemilly245]

For a tank that size I would have gone with chemi pure blue, but you're fine. I second the phyto. If this system is fairly new you're going to go through cyano I wouldn't stress on it, expect it to potentially last a while. Definitely avoid algicides like chemi clean or any of that stuff. Live phyto and pods are good to try and personally I think live phyto is key long term.

Any tips on phyto and pods? I’ve seen them at the store but really know nothing about them… do they breed in the tank or is it something I add with every feeding ?

 

[nothing_fancy]

Any tips on phyto and pods? I’ve seen them at the store but really know nothing about them… do they breed in the tank or is it something I add with every feeding ?

So for pods its a little tricky in small tanks, you definitely need a decent amount of rock work. You might need to re-seed it a few times before you see them around. Some LFS will sell a pod species in a jar but I would just make it easy and go with algaebarn. You can get pods and phyto from them. Phyto is also expensive to keep buying but phyto is extremely easy to make yourself once you have purchase a culture from algae barn or Poseidon Reef Systems (if you're looking at a single strain culture)You can also culture pods, it is a little more involved. Lots of info around the forum and elsewhere but feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.

edit: you will need to dose phyto to feed your pods and yes they will breed in the tank so long as they have a food source. So, you could start using phyto for a couple weeks and then add pods and continue to dose phyto at your discretion.

 

[Jekyl]

Not sure on current phosphate reading, but I’m using chemipure elite mostly to try to balance phosphates and nitrates. I’ve been scraping off the cyano for about a month now during water changes and screwing with the lights and it’s still growing back at relatively the same rate. Should I just keep manually removing it?

I would NOT be using that product without knowing your parameters. You can bottom out nutrients and end up with MUCH bigger issues.

 

[Jekyl]

Any tips on phyto and pods? I’ve seen them at the store but really know nothing about them… do they breed in the tank or is it something I add with every feeding ?

Check out the stuff from algae barn first. Comes with directions on the bottle and is very easy to get started with. From there you can either culture your own or surf the web for other sources.

 

[Spare time]

For a tank that size I would have gone with chemi pure blue, but you're fine. I second the phyto. If this system is fairly new you're going to go through cyano I wouldn't stress on it, expect it to potentially last a while. Definitely avoid algicides like chemi clean or any of that stuff. Live phyto and pods are good to try and personally I think live phyto is key long term.

If phosphates are a concern, blue doesn't do anything for phosphate in saltwater according to Randy

 

[nothing_fancy]

If phosphates are a concern, blue doesn't do anything for phosphate in saltwater according to Randy

Yep, that's correct. This is why I would recommend Blue for small systems. Completely stripping phos is not good for corals in my opinion. I think phosphates should be controlled and kept and eye on, not fully removed.

 

[Spare time]

Yep, that's correct. This is why I would recommend Blue for small systems. Completely stripping phos is not good for corals in my opinion. I think phosphates should be controlled and kept and eye on, not fully removed.

Sorry I misunderstood!

 

[Mikemilly245]

I would NOT be using that product without knowing your parameters. You can bottom out nutrients and end up with MUCH bigger issues.

Just did a phosphate test and it’s near 0… interesting. Really don’t understand where all this cyano is coming from. Flow is good , I’ve reduced the lights (intensity and time on) and it still grows back like crazy. Will this ever stop?? Lol

 

[Mikemilly245]

Yep, that's correct. This is why I would recommend Blue for small systems. Completely stripping phos is not good for corals in my opinion. I think phosphates should be controlled and kept and eye on, not fully removed.

So should I try blue if my phosphates are near 0? And when you say “potentially last a while” how long is that just curious? Tank started the first of the year, cyano has been rampant for about a month and half…

 

[Jekyl]

Just did a phosphate test and it’s near 0… interesting. Really don’t understand where all this cyano is coming from. Flow is good , I’ve reduced the lights (intensity and time on) and it still grows back like crazy. Will this ever stop?? Lol

Cyano pops up during swings or changes in a system. I would remove the chemipure immediately.

Get some accurate testing done of nitrate and phosphate using non API tests and get some live phyto.

We need accurate reading of both of those before any real good advice can be given.

 

[Reef.]

So should I try blue if my phosphates are near 0? And when you say “potentially last a while” how long is that just curious? Tank started the first of the year, cyano has been rampant for about a month and half…

I personally would not be using any chemi pure thinking it was going to help with cyno.

Adding carbon would help, change regularly and change floss etc daily.

You need to remove the cyno as often as humanly possible, scrub rocks out of the tank in used salt water and vacuum the sand, you also need to up your nutrients, knowing what they are will help, adding live phyto, pods etc and also checking you have good flow.

A couple of weeks of solid work on your tank should see a dramatic difference if not clear it totally.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Not sure on current phosphate reading, but I’m using chemipure elite mostly to try to balance phosphates and nitrates. I’ve been scraping off the cyano for about a month now during water changes and screwing with the lights and it’s still growing back at relatively the same rate. Should I just keep manually removing it?

Curious, why do you think it would balance nutrients as opposed to imbalance them if you do not know the current levels?

 

[Mikemilly245]

Curious, why do you think it would balance nutrients as opposed to imbalance them if you do not know the current levels?

To be honest I was just assuming they were imbalanced.. started a thread a couple weeks ago and the common consensus after seeing a nitrate test was nutrients were off, and chemipure was suggested many times. After testing phosphate and seeing a low reading I decided against adding it in