Chloroquine phosphate treatment

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so i swear by cp, it helped me beat velvet and it’s like I hit a goldmine since my LFS sells it
Anyways, I have two clowns and an engineer goby in the QT. I currently have filter floss, sea shells, a couple of pieces of live rock and a terracotta pot. I know I need to take out the rock before treatment, but can I leave the shells and pot? Is it safe to treat the engineer goby with CP? I plan to do 40mg per gallon, how long should I let it be treated? TIA
 
You’ll be fine with sea shells. I believe the pot is ok too but depends on the material.

What are you trying to treat?
 
You’ll be fine with sea shells. I believe the pot is ok too but depends on the material.

What are you trying to treat?
Just as a preventative for ich and that other thing I can’t spell or pronounce. Starts with a u lol
Also deciding if I should use prazipro
 
Just as a preventative for ich and that other thing I can’t spell or pronounce. Starts with a u lol
Also deciding if I should use prazipro

You can treat for 2 weeks and then transfer the fish to a second clean tank and observe for another 3 weeks.

I wouldn’t dose prazi with CP - you’re better off using general cure or alternatively you could treat with prazi after you finish CP.

Good luck!
 
so i swear by cp, it helped me beat velvet and it’s like I hit a goldmine since my LFS sells it
Anyways, I have two clowns and an engineer goby in the QT. I currently have filter floss, sea shells, a couple of pieces of live rock and a terracotta pot. I know I need to take out the rock before treatment, but can I leave the shells and pot? Is it safe to treat the engineer goby with CP? I plan to do 40mg per gallon, how long should I let it be treated? TIA
From Humblefish's treatment advisory:

Chloroquine phosphate: Treats Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans), Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium), Brooklynella hostilis & Uronema marinum.

How To Treat - Chloroquine phosphate (CP) is a “new drug” that actually was widely used to control external protozoa in saltwater aquariums back in the 70s & 80s. It was even used in some aquarium medications sold at LFS. Nowadays CP requires a prescription to purchase legitimately, making it more difficult to obtain. Fast forward to today and thanks to the power of the Internet, CP has come roaring back! The biggest obstacle to overcome is obtaining pharmaceutical grade 99% pure CP. I cannot stress the importance of this enough. Do not buy it from some guy on eBay or even an online vendor. The only way to be sure you are getting 99% pure CP is to get your vet to write you a prescription that can then be filled at a local pharmacy.

CP is a “one and done” medication, meaning you dose once and that’s it. There are no test kits for CP, so it’s important that you dose accurately using a digital scale. Also, don’t forget to dose any replacement water (from water changes, but not top off) with CP. The dosage rates are as follows:
  • Prophylactic treatment is 40 mg per gallon.
  • Active infections (visible symptoms present) is 60mg/gal.
  • For Uronema marinum and really bad infestations, you can dose up to 80mg/gal.
As you can see, there is quite a bit of wiggle room between the minimum & maximum dosage. Practically speaking, 40mg/gal will treat all external protozoa issues… it’s just that the higher dosages may get the job done a little faster. Treatment lasts 30 consecutive days, and no carbon, UV, etc. may be used during this time (although it can be used later when you wish to remove the medication from the water). A little quirk about CP is that it is light sensitive, so you cannot use a light on the aquarium while treating. However, this does not mean your fish have to remain in total darkness; ambient lighting (say, from a window across the room) is fine. CP is NOT reef safe. In addition to killing your corals, it is a very strong algaecide.

Pros - Gentle on most fish (DO NOT USE with wrasses, Hippo Tangs, anthias), a “one and done” medication that treats most external protozoa. CP is the closest thing there is to a “wonder drug” in our hobby.

Cons/Side Effects - Expensive, hard to get (requires a prescription), light sensitive; some evidence of appetite suppression with certain species (especially wrasses.) Attempts to feed CP laced food are usually not successful due to its bad metallic taste.
 
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I'm still new to this kind of marine quarantine protocol, and I'd like to hear your opinion before I begin. Here's my plan: When I bring a new fish home from the LFS, I match the salinity and temp of the incoming fish to the QT. I give the fish a FW dip using buffered RO water and strong aeration for 5 minutes, then introduce it to the QT. Next, I use PraziPro for 10 days -- thinking to eliminate whatever other parasites/flukes that it may have. Then I transfer the fish to a new QT and use CP for 30 days. Then transfer back to a new QT and observe the fish for another 35 days. Does this sound redundant or is it reasonable? Another question: If the fish develops symptoms of ick or velvet or brook or uronema while under the PraziPro treatment, do I immediately do a large water change and switch to CP? -- or even transfer to another QT and treat with CP?
 
What are you trying to treat with prazi? Yes it sounds redundant because prazi treats flukes and so does cp. I'm pretty sure cp treats many things we don't even know about but that's speculation on my part.

I would skip the fresh water dip, very stressful for fish, that's really an emergency tactic for specific situations. Everything else sounds fine.

Im also new to CP but have done a bit of research on it. Sourcing it is the only reason I haven't used it. Not comfortable to buy it on ebay. But I think I just found a reliable source. I'm also not quarantining much these days. My tanks have been full for a long time.
 
I did not know that CP treated flukes. I will simplify -- no FW dip and straight to CP quarantine for 30 days. Then count 45 days of observation? Is this a good QT protocol?
 
Actually, CP has not been proven to treat flukes. Most still recommend treating with either general cure, or at the least praziquantel, to account for flukes.

Also, doing a freshwater dip to check for flukes is generally not overly stressful on fish. I don’t necessarily do one on every fish, but if I’m not sure if a fish has flukes or if I think a fish might be heavily infested I will. Especially in the latter, as treating for flukes on a heavily infested fish could actually be quite stressful to the point of the fish perishing... because of the multitudes are all spasming on the fish at the same time [emoji15]
 

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