Chloroquine phosphate

hubblephilip · Feb 21, 2018

I'm in the UK but it's life spectrum ick shield only sold in the US

juanmanuelsanchez · Feb 22, 2018

I have it.... I can't tell if it works, I usually mix it with regular pellet food.

It's a lie that if it touches a coral it will die. I have seen corals ingest it and nothing happens.

I don't see it as a treatment but more like a precaution.

jasonrusso · Feb 23, 2018

juanmanuelsanchez said:
But it could be done? If I find a way to make them eat it? What would be the dose?

Dr. G's anti parasitic food. Tangs, angels, etc will eat it, but it is too small for carnivores like puffers.

Anti-parasitic Caviar Live Coral and Fish Food Dr. G by Unknown https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LBGQF6K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2I.JAbZ02B0SF

Paalk · Mar 3, 2018

I have sourced some Plaquenil 200mg from a salmon vet here in Norway, will that be ok in QT?

Humblefish · Mar 3, 2018

Paalk said:
I have sourced some Plaquenil 200mg from a salmon vet here in Norway, will that be ok in QT?

Unfortunately, Hydroxychloroquine has not worked for me for some reason.

It failed to eradicate velvet on two separate occasions.

Paalk · Mar 4, 2018

Thank you for quick answer, that was weird. I thought in general that a Malaria med would be ok. Maybe it is different with salmon. So I am in for Cupramine in QT then...?

Paalk · Mar 4, 2018

sensei · Mar 8, 2018

Humblefish said:
Unfortunately, Hydroxychloroquine has not worked for me for some reason. It failed to eradicate velvet on two separate occasions.

Humblefish,
can you please tell when did you notice that Hydroxycloroquine failed?
was it during treatment and fish died?
or was it after treatment and Hydroxycloroquine inhibited the disease during treatment and then came back??

I ask because I have a fish in CP now 40mg/g just as preventive treatment and I want to know know if CP inhibits the diseases like low copper concentration that diseases can come back up to 8 weeks later??
I want to know how much is the observation time after CP and I want to assume the worst case scenario as if CP failed to eradicate velvet.

thanks a lot

Humblefish · Mar 8, 2018

@sensei I used to seek out fish with active infections of velvet to experiment on. Twice I tried Hydroxychloroquine on such specimens, and both times new trophonts formed on the fish despite the medication being present in the water @ 80mg/gal. Not full blown velvet, mind you, but half a dozen or so trophonts. So, obviously Hydroxychloroquine was killing most of the dinospores, just not all of them. I believe @alprazo had a similar experience. I cannot really explain why Hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, since it is a derivative of chloroquine.

sensei · Mar 9, 2018

Humblefish said:
@sensei I used to seek out fish with active infections of velvet to experiment on. Twice I tried Hydroxychloroquine on such specimens, and both times new trophonts formed on the fish despite the medication being present in the water @ 80mg/gal. Not full blown velvet, mind you, but half a dozen or so trophonts. So, obviously Hydroxychloroquine was killing most of the dinospores, just not all of them. I believe @alprazo had a similar experience. I cannot really explain why Hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, since it is a derivative of chloroquine.

ok Humblefish, I understand.
In my case I am treating with CP, if treatment failed for what ever reason, I should see the disease during treatment of CP or after I have fish in non medicated water??
Thanks for your answer.

mfinn · Mar 9, 2018

This popped up on a Facebook page today.

https://reefs.com/2018/03/09/reef-medicine-series-chloroquine-phosphate/

becks · Mar 9, 2018

Yeah I saw that, if it worked it would be great for the UK as I can’t get hold of CP, that I trust

Greenstreet.1 · Mar 9, 2018

mfinn said:
This popped up on a Facebook page today.

https://reefs.com/2018/03/09/reef-medicine-series-chloroquine-phosphate/

Good info [emoji1531]

Greenstreet.1 · Mar 9, 2018

So now we know new life spectrum is CP sure

mfinn · Mar 9, 2018

Greenstreet.1 said:
So now we know new life spectrum is CP sure

Well I was hoping to hear rebuttal from @Humblefish

Greenstreet.1 · Mar 9, 2018

mfinn said:
Well I was hoping to hear rebuttal from @Humblefish

He spoke on it before. Was not sure if it was Pure CP or not. But It looks like they did the testing to say that it is Cp.

juanmanuelsanchez · Mar 9, 2018

I'm using it. Still got ich. But not all fish eat it. So it might work on those that eat the pellet. Now I using metroplex and focus in medicated custom food and it's working. Or at least the ich is under control... Will keep going until I see no more signs of infection.

Greenstreet.1 · Mar 9, 2018

juanmanuelsanchez said:
I'm using it. Still got ich. But not all fish eat it. So it might work on those that eat the pellet. Now I using metroplex and focus in medicated custom food and it's working. Or at least the ich is under control... Will keep going until I see no more signs of infection.

Don’t think we are talking about the same things as this is in powder form so it’s not for feed the fish you dose it to the tank.

juanmanuelsanchez · Mar 9, 2018

I was taking about life spectrum ick shield which supposedly have CP...

Greenstreet.1 · Mar 9, 2018

Food or Cp powder cause you said you feed the fish with it. I know that they have food also but we are talking about the powder that you treat your qt with not feed the fish.