Choati leopard wrasse

[Ike]

I know what your saying about my problems but that is why i have only reserved the fish and NOT yet added it to my tank, i have done this 1. so that my tank can be left longer and i am monitoring it every hour of the day and the fish still in it.

and 2. So that the wrasse can also be monitored in QT as its being treated, the longer its there the better the understanding will be as to how healthy the fish is to ensure (if indeed we do end up bringing it back) that it doesn't bring any unwanted visitors with it.

The last time i saw Ich on any of my fish was 1 week ago, that was about 5-6 spots on my regal tang, since then i haven't seen any on any fish, i do know this doesn't mean they aren't there because i know for a fact there will still be Ich in the tank, but i will continue monitoring my fish in the time being.

If you are in fact dealing with marine ich the only time you'll be able to see the parasite is when the parasite is pregnant on the fish and about to drop. The life cycle usually takes place wihin about a month, so un less every cyst has been passed through your UV filter, which is basically impossible, you most certainly still have ich in your tank and will for some time to come.

Siunce we're posting links to other forums already... :tongue:

Read this to learn more about the parasite.

I can't believe I am posting another thread on Ich!! - Reef Central Online Community

 

[x Sarah x]

Yeah unfortunately i have read everything possible on Ich so i know what i'm dealing with here, i've battled with it for years, but only recently have had the money to actually do something about it...

The regal tang being clear of it says something in itself though, shes had at least a cyst or two on her since we got her as a baby 3 years ago, now theres not a dot to been seen on her, i know it could change in the coming weeks, but its certainly a first for us, especially considering the illness and stress she suffered recently, to this day she looks healthier than ever, or maybe it just seems that way after seeing her in such a state!

Oh and to keep on subject, the wrasse...still not eaten yet, it comes out about 3.15pm for 10-20 minutes and then goes back under the sand, in that time it doesn't eat, just swims about above the rocks but not close...

 

[Brad Syphus]

Tell them to try and feed it some pemysis. Worked for me.

 

[Ike]

So what happened with this Sarah, did it make it at the LFS, did you bring it home?

 

[x Sarah x]

I have bought it home now, but only for the simple fact it has not eaten prepared food and the shops tanks aren't very established in terms of livefood so there isn't anything else it could possibly eat while there, it didn't cost much and seems fine otherwise.

It comes out about 3 times a day but only for 30mins maximum that i've seen, though its usually about 10 minutes... little worried as i've still not seen it eat anything at all, sometimes it scans the rocks, but i haven't seen it eat anything off the rocks, the other fish treat it like a cleaner wrasse, they swim alongside it and turn over to be cleaned and it doesn't mind at all, the only problem is i have a hyperactive Moon wrasse in my tank and sometimes it gets excited and bombs around the tank and scares the little leopard which panics slightly before moving up the other end of the tank.

It seems to have lost a tiny bit of weight, but not drastic enough to have to worry just yet, i just wish i'd see it eat something, would make me feel so much better.

I know theres an abundance of life in my refugium with regards to copepods etc, but would they make it into the tank? or would the pump filter them right out...should i maybe take a rock or some weed out of my refugium and put it into the tank to release some livefood? My dragonets seem to do fine without me doing this, unless they're eating something else.

 

[stunreefer Verified Sponsor]

Yes, move some rock or anything (substrate, chaeto, etc.) that might contain pods into your display.

Thalassoma lunare (moon wrasse) are very boisterous, aggressive and territorial fish (once established), one that should not be housed with docile or fickle wrasses, particularly one such as a chaoti. By your last post it appears you skipped QT with the new addition?

 

[x Sarah x]

The shop QT'd it for me as i haven't set mine up yet, we know them very well they're friends so trust them entirely!

Have had the moon wrasse for a long time, she's not aggressive or territorial but is certainly a little excitable at times, we have a few docile fish in the tank, the Moon and Regal are the most playful fish in the tank but they are never aggressive or else i wouldn't have them

 

[Brad Syphus]

Have you tried feeding her this? You really should

Piscine Energetics Inc - PE MYSIS - fresh water shrimp

 

[The Nomad]

Skipping QT is actually one of the recommended procedure for leopard wrasses. They do suffer from internal parasites though... treatment with prazipro or the like is the usual course of precaution. I think the odd are very much stacked against you here Good luck.

 

[Ike]

Have you tried feeding her this? You really should

Piscine Energetics Inc - PE MYSIS - fresh water shrimp

Mysis shrimp of any type are a good idea, that's how my Leopards started eating, one of them took several weeks before it accepted anything.

 

[x Sarah x]

I have got some mysis shrimp, but not PE mysis...i'm not sure of anywhere local that sells it, may have to order online.

 

[Ike]

IMO/E they're not going to only eat PE mysis, they'll either eat all types of mysis or not eat any of them.

 

[Brad Syphus]

Sara, go to the website and they have a dealer locater. Put in your state and it will show you what dealers are near you.
Ike, I tried all of the different mysis and when I finally found the pemysis, the chaoti went to town on them. I'm sure they will eat other shrimp. but thes particular shrimp were the first prepared food I could get mine to eat.

 

[Brad Syphus]

If you are in England, then you will probably have to order them, unless you contact them and ask if there are any dealers where you live.

 

[gflat65]

I always move chaeto onto the display with the introduction of a new wrasse (esp. leopards). Put it in the back of the tank so they can graze without being out in front of everyone. Also, check on the tank at different times of the night to see what time zone it's on. IMO, one of the things that gets leopards (and other sand sleeping wrasses) is that, not only are they stressed in collection/transit to wholesale, then retail, then your tank, they are also generally collected on nearly opposite photoperiods. The leopards I've gotten from Vietnam and Africa were all on different schedules. They'd come out at night and not have any light to hunt and go back into the sand. Those that started coming out in daylight made it (one large male bipartitus or meleagris-colors were never good and only saw him in flashes- was in and out of the sand for 8 weeks before he died). It can't hurt to enrich the foods with Selcon or something similar, once it starts accepting frozen foods. Something in Selcon always made my finnicky eaters more eager to eat.