Choosing the right size tank.....

Jon Fishman

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I don't know if this is going to be random brain droppings, ranting, vivid flashbacks, or what, but I have had a lot of coffee and it's a bit slow at work, so I think I will put this in the "Here's how I see it" category:

A quick glance at the dry-goods forum (don't though... I don't like the competition) will show you that clearly people enter this hobby, buy some REALLY nice stuff quite often, and then "Only used 16 months, like new!" You can't just throw money at the hobby, and make it more enjoyable......... or can you?

What I ultimately see/feel, is that a bigger tank (once you get past the laws of diminishing returns from the pico/nano tanks that are super finicky, to "normal" sized/stable tanks, is that people budget for the biggest tank they can get, and then get it running with the necessary equipment, while many of these tanks get the "good enough" treatment.

FOR INSTANCE: (guess I should provide real-world examples to make my point have even the slightest semblance of coherence)

I wanted a long tank...... non-custom long tanks I looked at, or used (many good deals out there too) put the total water volume at 350, 400G whatever...... I don't have the resources to dedicate to treating/maintaining that much water...... don't want to buy another 200lbs of rock, etc....

I went with a 140-ish gallon tank, for the same (probably more) price than a 300+ gallon tank, but what I do is this:

When I look at skimmers, I look at ones that handle 300-400G..... When I look at UV Sterilizers, I look at 120W units that say they are good for 400+ gallons..... Same for heaters, powerheads, whatever.... you name it, I want to be able to run my return pump on the lowest setting, not the highest.... I want to be able to turn off my skimmer if I am worried about "over-skimming" not run it 24/7 and "Hope" it's keeping up.

I couldn't feasibly set-up a water-change system that would change 100g every week, so..... I change my 35g per week on my smaller system more or less manually, and it works for me....

Could I have gone down the 400g tank road and "Made it work" ? Sure.... I would ultimately start slacking on water changes, probably not have sufficient gear to keep it clean/happy, and my enjoyment would suffer.

I am sure they are out there..... I know this...... but to this day the nicest home-aquariums I have ever seen, and been blown away by, have all been 90g or so, and less....... I have seen some absolutely gorgeous RSR setups that are just popping with color, crystal clear, and coral wall-to-wall.......

If I ever had to give up my tank, I think the 50-60g is my sweet-spot..... Just absolutely load it with coral, every gizmo-dosing-triton-whatever I can get my hands on.

What's your "Ideal" tank size? (would add a poll, but will just let you church-lady-talk-amongst yourselves......
 
I don't know if this is going to be random brain droppings, ranting, vivid flashbacks, or what, but I have had a lot of coffee and it's a bit slow at work, so I think I will put this in the "Here's how I see it" category:

A quick glance at the dry-goods forum (don't though... I don't like the competition) will show you that clearly people enter this hobby, buy some REALLY nice stuff quite often, and then "Only used 16 months, like new!" You can't just throw money at the hobby, and make it more enjoyable......... or can you?

What I ultimately see/feel, is that a bigger tank (once you get past the laws of diminishing returns from the pico/nano tanks that are super finicky, to "normal" sized/stable tanks, is that people budget for the biggest tank they can get, and then get it running with the necessary equipment, while many of these tanks get the "good enough" treatment.

FOR INSTANCE: (guess I should provide real-world examples to make my point have even the slightest semblance of coherence)

I wanted a long tank...... non-custom long tanks I looked at, or used (many good deals out there too) put the total water volume at 350, 400G whatever...... I don't have the resources to dedicate to treating/maintaining that much water...... don't want to buy another 200lbs of rock, etc....

I went with a 140-ish gallon tank, for the same (probably more) price than a 300+ gallon tank, but what I do is this:

When I look at skimmers, I look at ones that handle 300-400G..... When I look at UV Sterilizers, I look at 120W units that say they are good for 400+ gallons..... Same for heaters, powerheads, whatever.... you name it, I want to be able to run my return pump on the lowest setting, not the highest.... I want to be able to turn off my skimmer if I am worried about "over-skimming" not run it 24/7 and "Hope" it's keeping up.

I couldn't feasibly set-up a water-change system that would change 100g every week, so..... I change my 35g per week on my smaller system more or less manually, and it works for me....

Could I have gone down the 400g tank road and "Made it work" ? Sure.... I would ultimately start slacking on water changes, probably not have sufficient gear to keep it clean/happy, and my enjoyment would suffer.

I am sure they are out there..... I know this...... but to this day the nicest home-aquariums I have ever seen, and been blown away by, have all been 90g or so, and less....... I have seen some absolutely gorgeous RSR setups that are just popping with color, crystal clear, and coral wall-to-wall.......

If I ever had to give up my tank, I think the 50-60g is my sweet-spot..... Just absolutely load it with coral, every gizmo-dosing-triton-whatever I can get my hands on.

What's your "Ideal" tank size? (would add a poll, but will just let you church-lady-talk-amongst yourselves......
I could had tank below but settled for a 660g. Other was 850 gals

600 gallon.jpg
 
I could had tank below but settled for a 660g. Other was 850 gals


See..... that is a huge volume, with a ton of stocking options...... but I can't see ever wanting something that deep....... Maintenance would be a nightmare......


EDIT: of course the tank you got is amazing anyways!
 
See..... that is a huge volume, with a ton of stocking options...... but I can't see ever wanting something that deep....... Maintenance would be a nightmare......


EDIT: of course the tank you got is amazing anyways!
I find this tank the easiest to work on and maintain of all the tanks ive ever had.
 
Depends on what day / year you ask! I have lots of tanks running at the moment, everything from a 10g to a 220g. I like the big tank because of the fish stocking options it gives me, and I like the small tank because it brings the focus down to just one or two animals.

If I could only have one (shudder!), it would probably be the 220g - the variety and number of fish are what attracted me to this hobby in the first place. Now, when I get "old" (when is that?) and I can;t keep up with the big tank any longer, I'll settle for parking myself in front of a 10g with a pair of fire shrimp to keep me company!
 
Ah the great tank size debate, I'm with you @Jon Fishman my ultimate dream tank would be 1-2 feet longer than the custom tank I bought. BUT, it wouldn't have fit in our family room on the main floor and if it went into the basement (My wife's dream tank, anything in the basement), I wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much, I hate basements, finished or not, and have no desire to put my hobby and thing I want to enjoy most in my house down there. So I compromised slightly with my dreams, I'm glad I went with a custom build even though there are many many stock tanks that are much larger. I love the tank I bought and can't wait until it's full and thriving. I love looking at it even though it currently sits empty. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)

When I got into the hobby I bought a RSM C130, but the sump and skimmer I added to it I had planned for a much larger setup. That way when I did eventually upgrade (Which we all do) I wouldn't have to purchase nearly as much equipment. So my sump and skimmer and reactors were all designed around a 150ish gallon system, they still functioned well on the smaller system and now I'm upgrading, they are a perfect fit for the new system as well. Well aside from the sump, I decided to go with a basement sump which needed to be much bigger than the one I have now to handle the overflow. But the reactors and skimmer are still golden and the sump will still be used for another system. So no waste of money which helps keep the wife happy, I also am planning this upgrade to keep upgrading equipment to a minimum which helps keep costs down.
 
because you snorkel in it to perform maintenance? ;Yuck
Actually just has been a pleasure to work on without headaches. I pictured differently
 

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