Chromis and uronema

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

How do you keep these fish alive..
I really want a group of chromis but I have tried twice now with 2 different groups in quarantine and have lost them all to this disease.
I'm treating them with metroplex and coppersafe. With the second group I had the meds on hand and dosed them as soon as I put the fish in the quarantine and they still got it.
Im currently down to 4 of the 10 fish of this last group but 2 of them have the red sores now so I'm sure I will lose these 4 as well.

I have not tried any dips or freshwater baths with this last group but I did freshwater dip a couple fish in the first group after seeing red spots and that seemed to only make them worse.
I know tank transfer is an option but I only have one quarantine tank to use..

Frtdrmrose7 · Feb 4, 2019

Are you dosing the metro at twice the dosage? I believe this is what @HotRocks said was key to knocking down Uronema.

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

Frtdrmrose7 said:
Are you dosing the metro at twice the dosage? I believe this is what @HotRocks said was key to knocking down Uronema.

Yes I am

EmdeReef · Feb 4, 2019

Bthomas said:
Yes I am

Are you sure it’s uronema? 10 chromis in a tank usually doesn’t work as they kill each other.

Also, have you sterilized the tanks between QT? uronema survives indefinitely in water.

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

EmdeReef said:
Are you sure it’s uronema? 10 chromis in a tank usually doesn’t work as they kill each other.

Also, have you sterilized the tanks between QT? uronema survives indefinitely in water.

Pretty positive. And yes I left the tank completely dry for a couple weeks between groups.

EmdeReef · Feb 4, 2019

Bthomas said:
Pretty positive. And yes I left the tank completely dry for a couple weeks between groups.

Unfortunately, usually once you see the symptoms it is too late. In your case I would do formalin or acriflavine baths to give the antibiotics a chance to work. You should also feed metro in addition to dosing to the tank.

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

EmdeReef said:
Unfortunately, usually once you see the symptoms it is too late. In your case I would do formalin or acriflavine baths to give the antibiotics a chance to work. You should also feed metro in addition to dosing to the tank.

Oh I know it's probably too late for these guys. What I don't understand is how to keep them from getting it.. They had no signs when I got them and I started medicating from day 1

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

I soaked food in metro/focus from day 1 as well

EmdeReef · Feb 4, 2019

Bthomas said:
Oh I know it's probably too late for these guys. What I don't understand is how to keep them from getting it.. They had no signs when I got them and I started medicating from day 1

They probably came with it. It’s very common for fish to remain asymptomatic to uronema.

If you can get try ruby rally baths and feed metro bound to seachem focus.

The only other thing to do is make sure all equipment and tank are sterilized between uses.

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

Would a bath do any good after red sores are present? Or would that just do more harm

EmdeReef · Feb 4, 2019

Bthomas said:
Would a bath do any good after red sores are present? Or would that just do more harm

It’s an antiseptic and can buy you some time before antibiotics kick in.

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

EmdeReef said:
It’s an antiseptic and can buy you some time before antibiotics kick in.

Well I would have to order some so I know it won't help these guys but if I try them again I will make sure to have some on hand

EmdeReef · Feb 4, 2019

Even a FW dip may provide some relief.

Bthomas · Feb 4, 2019

EmdeReef said:
Even a FW dip may provide some relief.

I tried FW dipping a few of the last group and it only seemed to make them worse. I don't know if that was just because they were too far gone or if it stressed them further to the point of death

Bthomas · Feb 15, 2019

Any experience with treating chromis with copper? I have been using copper and metroplex and I'm wondering if the copper is why I'm having trouble since I know it surpresses immune system..

I have another group now that I started off with a rally bath and then put them straight into a quarantine with copper and metro and they still got the disease.. I'm getting super bummed, I really want some of these guys in my tank

Frtdrmrose7 · Feb 15, 2019

Bthomas said:
Any experience with treating chromis with copper? I have been using copper and metroplex and I'm wondering if the copper is why I'm having trouble since I know it surpresses immune system..

I have another group now that I started off with a rally bath and then put them straight into a quarantine with copper and metro and they still got the disease.. I'm getting super bummed, I really want some of these guys in my tank

Uronema is depressing ugh, this is why I haven’t tried Chromis. Maybe starting with just Metro in the water and food would work to let the fish’s immune system start working against this then come in with copper to finish it off. I’m not an expert with Uronema just a fellow victim.