Clown Goby Dying!

[starypotter]

Hi more info here https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/u...n-goby-what-food-is-best.442224/#post-5038063

I thought he was dead, he was laying on his side but he just moved. I put brine shrimp in last night, but he didn't seem to care. Getting more frozen food now. Help what else can I do??

I just tried bloodworms, and another different frozen cube. No interest. Tried some more brine shrimp, nothing, he just swam away but was very wobbly and just sort of scooted along the bottom. Should I try to get some of the brine shrimp out of there? It's starting to look like it's own hatchery...

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Found the thread here. I'll continue to try and help here. Pictures are worth a thousands words. I remember the other post he was super thin when you got him.

Do you see any type of spots on him? Is his respiration really fast like he's gasping for oxygen? What meds do you have on hand?

Maybe I can get some better help for you... @Humblefish @melypr1985 @Maritimer

 

[starypotter]

I have this

 

[starypotter]

 

[HotRocks]

Hi more info here https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/u...n-goby-what-food-is-best.442224/#post-5038063

I thought he was dead, he was laying on his side but he just moved. I put brine shrimp in last night, but he didn't seem to care. Getting more frozen food now. Help what else can I do??

I just tried bloodworms, and another different frozen cube. No interest. Tried some more brine shrimp, nothing, he just swam away but was very wobbly and just sort of scooted along the bottom. Should I try to get some of the brine shrimp out of there? It's starting to look like it's own hatchery...

Do you have any additional details?

Signs of disease? Other inhabitants and their condition?

I would not leave excess food in there, it could foul your water or cause an ammonia spike.

 

[starypotter]

Can’t get better pictures without disturbing them and the one was so weak looking I’m afraid to.
The super skinny one looks like it’s taking big/deep breaths? I’m not sure what normal is...

 

[starypotter]

Do you have any additional details?

Signs of disease? Other inhabitants and their condition?

I would not leave excess food in there, it could foul your water or cause an ammonia spike.

He was emaciated when I got him. I didn't know this. I don't think I see any signs of disease, but it's one of my first fish and I'm not exactly good at identifying that. I'll take out as much of the food as I can then. There was another clown goby also very thin, MIA I think it died and was cleaned up by my shrimp. He is now in a container with another clown goby, 1 gallon of water, it was the start of my TTM but I didn't notice how thin he was until I put him in the container. Other fish seem fine, this one is just ungodly thin.

 

[starypotter]

I have this

I have to go to work for an hour or two, I can pick up more if LFS or Petco has it. My mom will be home and if there's anything emergency that could be done with what I have please let me know.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Metro and Parazi will help treat for any internal parasites, but I would go off of one of the experts suggestions as what and how to treat.

 

[starypotter]

Bump

 

[Maritimer]

You can treat with Metro and Prazi-Pro in the water column, following the directions on the bottle - not certain I'd use both simultaneously, though, as Prazi's got some chemistry in there to keep it pre-dissolved, and which can play hob with your oxygen levels, if you mix it. Prazi-Pro primarily works on flukes and other worm-family critters, Metro on ciliated protozoans. Treatment in the water column is less efficient than mixing the meds with food - but the fish will drink _some_ water, so some of the medication will get where it needs to be.

The MetroPlex can also be used internally, in fish that are eating, by mixing it into their food, along with a Seachem product called "Focus".

~Bruce

 

[starypotter]

You can treat with Metro and Prazi-Pro in the water column, following the directions on the bottle - not certain I'd use both simultaneously, though, as Prazi's got some chemistry in there to keep it pre-dissolved, and which can play hob with your oxygen levels, if you mix it. Prazi-Pro primarily works on flukes and other worm-family critters, Metro on ciliated protozoans. Treatment in the water column is less efficient than mixing the meds with food - but the fish will drink _some_ water, so some of the medication will get where it needs to be.

The MetroPlex can also be used internally, in fish that are eating, by mixing it into their food, along with a Seachem product called "Focus".

~Bruce

Well half the problem is that I can't get them eating so I guess adding it to the water will have to do something. Do you have one that you recommend I use over the other? Keeping in mind I have 4 fish who had just spent 3 days with Metro who are in this mix. I used Metro because my clownfish has a red mark at his one gill and the gill seems to be flapping about somewhat and I was advised to do a treatment of that to avoid possible bacterial infection.
I planned to use Humblefish 's TTM plan with dosing Prazi on the appropriate days. but I'm no longer sure if I should try to stick to that plan or do something else. Tomorrow would have been their transfer day but I understand the appeal of starting treatment now. Now I have no evidence of the fish having ich. A local reefer I trust says that the place I got them from tends to have the healthiest fish in the area, yet I did get many of these fish at their major summer sale which means they had just ordered a ton of new fish and put them into their system and I don't know their supplier.

 

[Maritimer]

Treatment for a bacterial or internal parasite infection would normally go 10-14 days, and with the internal parasites can very often go longer than that. As with antibiotic use in humans, it's best to run the entire course of treatment regardless of what the symptoms look like, in order to completely eradicate hidden "bugs".

~Bruce

 

[starypotter]

Treatment for a bacterial or internal parasite infection would normally go 10-14 days, and with the internal parasites can very often go longer than that. As with antibiotic use in humans, it's best to run the entire course of treatment regardless of what the symptoms look like, in order to completely eradicate hidden "bugs".

~Bruce

Alright, I'll find which one seems like it'll work best and treat everyone then. Unfortunately the one clown goby has now died. The other is looking to be in rough shape but I think I got him to eat some brine shrimp soaked in a little bit of chopped up garlic. At least I think he ate, honestly the fish and the shrimp are so tiny I'm not even sure. When I slowly used a pipette to squirt in the brine shrimp on occasion he was swim like crazy at the wall of the isolation box that the shrimp were floating through. And now he's sitting at a 45 degree angle, head up instead of just laying on the ground. So I think that's progress?