Clownfish discrimination

Naiad · May 13, 2016

Ok so where the heck are all my designer tomato clowns? I mean really? Heck were are all the regular tomato clownfish? I can't remember the last time I saw them in a LFS. Is it just my local area or is there a hobby wide embargo on these perfectly good clownfish that someone failed to mention to me? Enough of the percs. And ocell.

All clowns matter.

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Tahoe61 · May 13, 2016

Tomatos get big and VERY mean when mature, most people want a peaceful tank. I love the look of Maroons but I would never own another in anything less than a 200 gallon tank. Personally I prefer clowns that do not rip my hand to pieces every time I put my hand in the tank. It's a personal preference. There are always the exceptions to the rule, I have yet to meet one.

Naiad · May 13, 2016

Tahoe61 said:
Tomatos get big and VERY mean when mature, most people want a peaceful tank. I love the look of Maroons but I would never own another in anything less than a 200 gallon tank. Personally I prefer clowns that do not rip my hand to pieces every time I put my hand in the tank. It's a personal preference. There are always the exceptions to the rule, I have yet to meet one.

Lol I know they get big but so do maroons. I always see maroons available at the lfs and you have various "options". I don't mind that not everyone is dieing to own a mini version of Diablo (my tomato). It is more that I can't even find her a suitable mate because others deemed them undesirable clowns. I have seen just as much aberration in tomatoes as far as color and markings but do they get a breeding project? Nooo. I have tried to have my lfs get them in and they cant. They "outrage" in my post was more for comic value but I do think tomatoes have more to add then they have been given credit for.

Tahoe61 · May 13, 2016

Liveaquaria is a great source for them. Ibluewater is another great site for clowns and they have some nice nice Tomato.
http://www.ibluewater.com/clownfish.html

So hard to pair a Tomato or Maroon once they has established the entire tank as their territory.

Beauty in the eye.....yada yada. I love the intense red coloration and the attitude BUT I can only take getting bit for so many years.

My discrimination also works against Clarkii.

Good luck finding a boyfriend for Diablo, may the force be with you.

Naiad · May 13, 2016

Tahoe61 said:
Liveaquaria is a great source for them. Ibluewater is another great site for clowns and they have some nice nice Tomato.
http://www.ibluewater.com/clownfish.html

So hard to pair a Tomato or Maroon once they has established the entire tank as their territory.

Beauty in the eye.....yada yada. I love the intense red coloration and the attitude BUT I can only take getting bit for so many years.

My discrimination also works against Clarkii. [emoji14]

Good luck finding a boyfriend for Diablo, may the force be with you.

I'm going to try to pair her after a fallow period so hopefully she will be more accepting. She is clearing a nest site so I know for sure it is a she. I just wanted to find a clown that was a bit unique. It bums me to find that they exist but no one cares to try and make them available like other clowns. I do understand the issue of demand driving breeding but why can't I get a nice looking clown too.[emoji22]

Thank you. I will look at ordering one. I just wish the blacks or Phantom were for sure being bred. Heck even misbars lol.

michellejy · May 13, 2016

I had a tomato pair, and they were not aggressive *to me* at all. They had a 30 gallon tank to themselves though; I never tried to mix other fish in that little space with them. Mine was actually really easy to pair. The female of my first pair died, so I picked up a juvenile. Heinz and Roma were laying eggs within a month.

I actually think tomatoes are awesome, and when/if I set up my dwarf predator tank, I will likely try to add one of the larger bodied clown species to the tank.

Naiad · May 13, 2016

Now that my clown is in a large tank she doesn't go after me. I am sure if I put my hand on her "nest" that would be a different story but I think it is understandable. The only issue I have is she constantly cleans the rock she has claimed which means no coral frags are allowed on it. She broke of a trumpet I glued down and carried it halfway across the tank. It was an interesting sight.

Dancingmad · May 13, 2016

I had a tomato clown - She established the whole 75g as his territory! Not a friendly lady - she murdered many fish, some larger than her. When I would clean the tank she would hide behind some rocks....zip out and nip my hands and arms, resulting in eraser sized bruises(its only a little funny till you're not expecting it haha!). Picture provided as evidence of evil!

mikesilverado8888 · May 14, 2016

I have a maroon clown it's very nice it's about 2 inches big. What size do they start getting aggressive

Naiad · May 14, 2016

Dancingmad said:
I had a tomato clown - She established the whole 75g as his territory! Not a friendly lady - she murdered many fish, some larger than her. When I would clean the tank she would hide behind some rocks....zip out and nip my hands and arms, resulting in eraser sized bruises(its only a little funny till you're not expecting it haha!). Picture provided as evidence of evil!

I know that look well lol. It is the "if I could find my way out of this glass enclosures I'd murder you in your sleep" look.

Naiad · May 14, 2016

mikesilverado8888 said:
I have a maroon clown it's very nice it's about 2 inches big. What size do they start getting aggressive

I think it just depends on the fish. You may be lucky and not have a super aggressive clown.

Tahoe61 · May 14, 2016

mikesilverado8888 said:
I have a maroon clown it's very nice it's about 2 inches big. What size do they start getting aggressive

My clowns started to show their aggression at about 3-5 years old.

Naiad · May 18, 2016

Score one for tomatoes!

Fresh from acclimation on a captive raised clown

We need none of your hosting tricks lol

4FordFamily · May 18, 2016

Deigner clowns do nothing for me. I like a black ocellaris and a regular pair. Cool enough for me. Spending hundreds on a fancy damsel is not my prerogative. However, in a nano or otherwise shorter length tank where your options are limited I think they're a very cool dose of color and uniqueness and do see the market for them.

That aside, I suspect the omittance of more common clowns at many LFS is largely due to profit margins, total profit, and demand.

Naiad · May 18, 2016

I do like a few of the designers but not at the price they demand. I honestly did not expect the little guy to take to the nem like that lol. He will be bummed when I rearrange things in a few days.