Clownfish Harem ratio

[Tou]

Hi everyone
I am looking to make a clownfish harem tank and see what everyone think is the ideal number of clownfish for my JBJ 45 gallon tank. Tank is around 2 years old now and it house over 20 anemone. I believed it have enough hiding place for them to hide and anemone to host.
2 Carpet anemone
1 corkscrew anemone
11 RBTA
2 Rock Flower anemone
10 Mini Maxi Carpet anemone

Tank mate currently have
1 fire fish
1 Yellow watchmen goby
1 cleaner shrimp
2 urchins
1 cucumber
Various CUC

Tank Parameters
Salinity 1.023
PH 8.3
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
NO3 10
PO4 .5
Alkalinity 11.5
Calcuium 450

Thanks all

 

[eacass02]

I have a 60 cube with 10 and they have more than enough space. I’d say go with 10 because I think I could have went with 12-15 in my 60

 

[Tou]

Cool
Can you post a picture of how yours looks like?

Also do you guys think is it necessary to remove the fire fish and yellow watchman goby?
Because catching them will require to remove everything in the tank.
Thanks

 

[eacass02]

This is mine a month or so ago. I have about 20 nems probably, including that monster in the middle. Annoyingly my clowns haven’t found the nems yet, in fact they actively avoid them. But I got them from the same clutch about 7 months ago and haven’t had any problems with aggression or things like that.

 

[eacass02]

I have a spotted goby and he’s not hurting anything so as long as you keep up on your parameters I’m sure it’s fine. Adding 10 or so fish will definitely mess with the bio load

 

[Tou]

Beautiful and huge!!
Any tips on growing ur nem?
I wondering what you feed and how often you feed ur anemones.

 

[Tou]

Adding 10 or so fish will definitely mess with the bio load

Yea about that part, do you have any tips on dealing with that? Because even thought is a mature tank I am still worrying about the bioload

 

[eacass02]

I put a couple cubes of mysis in a turkey baster and spray it around the nems every few days or so. I get a lot of splits by doing it sooner so I dont like to do it very often because i would rather have big guys instead of a bunch of small ones.
I would get the clowns from all the same clutch, it helps with aggression issues if they are the same size. I got mine from Sustainable Aquatics. They came super small so they shouldn't hurt your bioload too much at first. I would just test more than normal for a few weeks after you get them and maybe increase water changes if needed. I know everyone has their own experiences with BTAs but mine haven't been affected by nutrients, but I also have an automated water change system going. I never have nitrates, but have had higher phosphates and the nems dont care. Clown harems are super easy to care for in my experience

 

[Tou]

Very helpful information thank you very much

 

[Raptor72]

I have 15 in my Red Sea 170. No issues since they are all pretty small.

 

[Tou]

I have 15 in my Red Sea 170. No issues since they are all pretty small.

Beautiful setup

 

[Super Fly]

Annoyingly my clowns haven’t found the nems yet, in fact they actively avoid them. But I got them from the same clutch about 7 months ago and haven’t had any problems with aggression or things like that.

was thinking of setting up a harem tank myself but this is the biggest hesitation, alreayd have 2 clowns in 93 cube with same frustration. They refuse to swim in anemone, going on for almost 2 yrs and I have tons of BTA's too! Tried everything to encourage them but nothing works so gave up...
Any update whether your clowns have found the nems?... would hate to setup a new system to end up same as my 93 cube.

 

[DeniseAndy]

What kind of clowns do you want? Pink skunks, orange skunks, clarkii will all find the nems fast. Perc and Occel will take a while. FME

 

[Super Fly]

What kind of clowns do you want? Pink skunks, orange skunks, clarkii will all find the nems fast. Perc and Occel will take a while. FME

If it was up to me, would be open to any specie but boss lady not fond of designer clowns. Was planning on buying Percs or Occel from local guy who breeds them and would've been able to acquire lots at very good price from the same brood. But not sure anymore if I want to spend the time/money setting a harem if I'll end up with nem ignoring clownfish harem, would drive me nuts

 

[Tou]

What kind of clowns do you want? Pink skunks, orange skunks, clarkii will all find the nems fast. Perc and Occel will take a while. FME

I added 20 breed red sea clowns to my tank and they instantly jumped into all the RBTA and carpet anemone. I am super happy with this decision, now my tank is full of playful clowns swimming around.

 

[sam2110]

It's bad enough trying to clean my tank out with a pair of clowns biting my hands, dread to think what a tank full would be like

 

[Tou]

It's bad enough trying to clean my tank out with a pair of clowns biting my hands, dread to think what a tank full would be like

Haha that's why I have long rubber gloves

 

[Azedenkae]

I added 20 breed red sea clowns to my tank and they instantly jumped into all the RBTA and carpet anemone. I am super happy with this decision, now my tank is full of playful clowns swimming around.

Gosh that sounds soooo great.