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Is it normal for 2 juvenile clowns to fight after both being newly introduced into tank? Acclimated both together for about 2 and a half hours with drip method. They were fine until about an hour into being in the tank together. Started to fight and like challenge each other . Eventually they both went to separate sides of tank and hide behind rock, now that lights are out one came out from the rock. Size different isn't great, maybe 1/4" different.

Picture is about 15 minutes after being introduced to tank, and I kept them being dripped into 5 gallon bucket for so long because salinity difference was 1.020-1.025(LFS-my tank)
 
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Its completely normal for clowns to establish dominance with each other. The more dominant one will eventually grow larger and become the female. It's a shot in the dark if they will lay eggs for you when the get old enough, but they may very well pair up.
 
melypr1985 said:
Its completely normal for clowns to establish dominance with each other. The more dominant one will eventually grow larger and become the female. It's a shot in the dark if they will lay eggs for you when the get old enough, but they may very well pair up.
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Hoping not to wake up to a dead fish from being killed by the other . It was actual fighting , and I hope because they decided to hide from each other , that it won't negatively affect chances of them getting along.
 
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Rarely will clowns in juvenile stages fight to death. They will fight though. As melypr said, they are trying to establish dominance. It could take months to a year. Looks like they are young under 1" or so, so no worries. Unless you have one of those rare instances (actually not heard or experienced myself).

My new babies are 6 months and just now starting to hassle each other a bit. I have the one picked by behavior that I think will be female. Guess I will have to wait and see over the next many months. :)
 
Ryan Rioux said:
Hoping not to wake up to a dead fish from being killed by the other . It was actual fighting , and I hope because they decided to hide from each other , that it won't negatively affect chances of them getting along.
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DeniseAndy said:
Rarely will clowns in juvenile stages fight to death. They will fight though. As melypr said, they are trying to establish dominance. It could take months to a year. Looks like they are young under 1" or so, so no worries. Unless you have one of those rare instances (actually not heard or experienced myself).

My new babies are 6 months and just now starting to hassle each other a bit. I have the one picked by behavior that I think will be female. Guess I will have to wait and see over the next many months. :)
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i would say 1"-1 1/4" , so yes small! If necessary I will buy. Breeder net to separate them for a bit. When I first introduced them to DT , which i didn't quarantine and I should've , quarantine is probably a week from being ready . Well when they first got in tank the smaller one was acting odd like resting on a rock. And then like woke up and swam around . Could not have been temp or salinity .
 
my clowns were crazy when they first met each other, the fight to be the lady fish is a fiesty one!
 
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How did you get your clowns to eat? I've dropped a couple pellets in past couple days and nothing .
 
I got lucky mine established dominance (fought through the bag) while one was in a bag temp acclimating. Let it out and never had a fight. The bagged one was the male.
 
ReeferBob said:
I got lucky mine established dominance (fought through the bag) while one was in a bag temp acclimating. Let it out and never had a fight. The bagged one was the male.
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There still fighting now. They don't seem to be hurting one another or nipping but they're going at it. I'm concerned with feeding them. I've tried 2x and so far nothing . Anything in particular to feed them?
 
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I also have 4 hermits that I've tried to feed but they don't seem to be eating . I've tried a couple small flakes . And I have not gotten a diatom bloom , or any algae at all YET. so I'm afraid to add a fire shrimp that I want .
 
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You could be months away from diatoms and you might never get them. Just take your time, watch the overfeeding, aggressively skim, keep up on water changes (VERY important), start a GFO reactor, and keep on keepin' on...
 
ReeferBob said:
You could be months away from diatoms and you might never get them. Just take your time, watch the overfeeding, aggressively skim, keep up on water changes (VERY important), start a GFO reactor, and keep on keepin' on...
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I'm really trying not to over feed because of causing algae! But I need to feed them so I am going to pick up some mysis today. Brine , and I read a lot of good things on Kent marine garlic dip. I'm going to do a 40-50% water change today.
 
be careful with extended use against of garlic. It's not a vitamin supplement. It's used to entice picky eaters to take frozen food. There are studies that suggest extended use of garlic can cause liver damage in fish. Brine also has next to no nutritional value unless gutloaded or as live newly hatched babies that still have the "egg sack" attached to it. You could stick with mysis or add in bits of clam, squid, other fish, fish eggs- things like that. Selcon is a good vitamin boost or using Fish oil.
 
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melypr1985 said:
be careful with extended use against of garlic. It's not a vitamin supplement. It's used to entice picky eaters to take frozen food. There are studies that suggest extended use of garlic can cause liver damage in fish. Brine also has next to no nutritional value unless gutloaded or as live newly hatched babies that still have the "egg sack" attached to it. You could stick with mysis or add in bits of clam, squid, other fish, fish eggs- things like that. Selcon is a good vitamin boost or using Fish oil.
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I gave them some frozen mysis, they ate it. I had to shut all pumps and power heads off for it to float to bottom. Then I decided to try to give them 2 pellets to see if they would eat it and they did not. I will not use garlic for long. Only if I am having trouble feeding. They seem to be getting along better at the MOMENT. The picture is them at the moment , and also a quarantine tank that I hope will cycle soon!!!! For any additional fish/inverts etc.
 
My clowns will eat almost anything, but I have had some fish that would love all frozen, but hated pellet, loved flake and some fish the other way around. Go figure. Each has their own preference. Maybe they will begin to adapt when bit older.

By the way, my percula pair were hilarious today. My female (larger - over 1.5yrs) and my male (baby - 8months) have been together now4 months. She was actually pushing him to the sand with her nose and steering him around. He then got up and followed her around again. Strange fish, but they are happy. Yours should establish female/male soon enough. By the pic they are the same size, so it could be a bit more duking it out for a while. :)
 
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