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So a few weeks back I picked up some soda lime to just try. I was curious to see what affect it would have on ph. I was expecting a little rise as I use alot of surface agitation. There are plenty of windows open as well. My regular ph has always sat between 8.1-8.2 during day and 7.8-7.9 at night. These values do not bother at all. And im not obsessed with raising it. But after trying it I definitely have questions.
Within a few hours of installing the soda lime there was a slight increase. By that night the ph had reached close to 8.27 and over night the ph only dropped to about 8.0. After a few days the ph settled in and stayed at 8.3 (8.35) daytime and only dropped to 8.1(8.15) at night. I was impressed that the product worked so well but also surprised to see how much the ph climbed. The soda lime was supposed to 4 to 6 weeks and mine was exhausted by week 4.
So far everything makes sense to me. Instead of spending money on soda lime I thought I would try feeding my skimmer with air from outside. I had to trial and error it a bit to get the right size piping to allow enough air flow. And ended up with a 1.5" pvc pipe almost to the skimmer where the skimmer tube connected.
I thought for sure I would see a difference and the ph would rise again. It seemed to me like the same thing as the soda lime. The soda lime absorbed the co2 and was placed before the skimmer air intake. The line from outside should have fed the skimmer with air and hopefully no co2. But to my surprised the ph has barely rose. At night it has dropped again below 8.0 amd as low as 7.7 and the ph has only climbed to 8.2 at the most.
The obvious question is why did I get different results. Is it because my apartment is so full of co2 that only by forcing that air through soda lime does anything beneficial.
Am I maybe not getting enough outside air into the skimmer, although it is running normally.

Why would soda lime work and outside fresh air doesn't?
 
Why would soda lime work and outside fresh air doesn't?

A CO2 scrubber has the potential to remove all CO2 from the air entering it, while the outside air still has about 400 ppm of CO2.

So depending on the level in your home air (say, 400-1500 ppm) and the amount taken out by the scrubber, it is certainly possible to get higher pH using a scrubber than outside air (400 ppm). :)
 
A CO2 scrubber has the potential to remove all CO2 from the air entering it, while the outside air still has about 400 ppm of CO2.

So depending on the level in your home air (say, 400-1500 ppm) and the amount taken out by the scrubber, it is certainly possible to get higher pH using a scrubber than outside air (400 ppm). :)

Thanks Randy, I thought that might be the case. But I was still surprised by how little the outside air affected the ph.

Now in order to extend the life of the soda lime would it be a good idea to run the outside air through the co2 scrubber. Or is that defeating the purpose by not scrubbing the air in the room itself. I guess scrubbing the air from outside wouldnt be very practical. Im not hung up on using the soda lime, I could easily save the 30 bucks a month for something else. Or I may use it seasonally as once a/c comes out (of the window) all my windows can be open and produce more air flow. During winter the windows are always cracked since it gets to hot. Funny enough the tank runs a lot more stable in the winter.
 
to extend the life of the soda lime would it be a good idea to run the outside air through the co2 scrubber

The soda lime will last longer if the outside air you are scrubbing has lower CO2 levels than your inside air (it probably does). I don't bother with the outside air, and just scrub the indoor air.

If the air is dry, you can also extend the life of the soda lime by putting a small DIY humidifier in-line in front of the scrubber, like in the pictures here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/co2-scrubbing-an-unexpected-journey-chasing-numbers.305924/

I could easily save the 30 bucks a month for something else.

You can get bulk soda lime pretty cheap online from e.g. veterinary supply places. I got a 5-gallon bucket (about 40 pounds) for about $80, and it's enough to last many many months.
 
Thanks for the replies and yes I have found it online. I'm going to wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. As the window closest to the tank has the a.c.. Which will be coming out in the next week or so.
 
I'm glad this conversation came up - it reminded me that I had forgotten to refill my humidifier bottle this week!
 

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