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OK. Here goes. A little while back approximately 4 weeks ago, I performed a major display tank and sump, along with all equipment cleaning. During my cleaning I happen to jar loose one of the main rocks in my display. So to keep it from falling I grabbed ahold of it I took it out of the water dried off the base applied some superglue and attempted to reattach it. However, luck was just not on my side and I had to in-turn remodel a little bit on the left portion of my display. Without fault I began the process of making my fresh RODI salt water to do a 25% water change. I do this percent water change on a weekly basis sometimes bi weekly. I change my RODI filters and my resin as needed once my TDS shows one ppm. But as I made my water I noticed that it was replenishing my 30 gallon reserve tank and I was reading one part per million TDS. I became nervous as in the past when this has happened I would get a small outbreak of algae until I got my reserve water back with a 0 reading having replaced filters. Needless to say I finish my maintenance with the water I had mixed. So probability is that some of the one part per million TDS was now involved in my water change.
Now comes the hard part. The next morning I found my yellow tank floating dead. I immediately called the LFS and discussed the situation. I began to think that the issue was stress due to change in the rockwork. I maintain this thought for the next couple days and began to notice that the pigment in my 2 clown fish seemed to be fading on the upper portion of their body. My immediate cause for concern I reached out to be very helpful individual and she gave me some great advice. I believe that the situation may have been Brooklynella. Since I could not get the recommended 37% Formallin mixture to help combat the illness I got one of the alternates and started the treatment process. I was on able to capture all of my remaining fish however I did capture my Orange clown fish and put her in a QT. I continued to monitor all of the fish both main display and quarantine tank for the next couple days. In that time I lost my black male clown fish and then a day later my Orange clown fish. Throughout this treatment process I was caught off guard when I noticed that my posilipora seemed to be bleaching out. It was almost as if the meat on the skeleton was shedding off. So I panicked and immediately started mixing up more salt water to do another water change thinking that I was missing some other issue. While 2 days later the coral was completely bleached and no evidence of any meaty substance left on the skeleton. And I also noticed that now my bird's nest coral was starting to bleach out and seemed to be shedding its meaty layer. Finally, yesterday I lost my Royal gramma. In my tank I currently have a hammer, a frog spawn, a huge bubble coral, 3 different pieces of acro pora, a riccordia mushroom, and various green with blue spot mushrooms. I also have a few various zoas and polyps. (See attached pics). None of the remaining corals seem to have any distinguishable signs of infection. I have also since changed my RODI filters including the color changing resin. Besides continuing with frequent water changes I am totally baffled as to what is going on. Can anyone help?
This This tank has been up and running now for almost 2 years. All of my parameters are within the normal range. I have checked numerous times now since the onset of this situation.

Thank you in advance,
Jason
 
Sounds like you may be changing to much to fast. Changing rocks around won't hurt fish and disease won't jump from corals to fish or vice versa. Every time you change water you may be knocking out good bacteria and are changing tank parameters significantly. Try keeping it stable
 
+1, sounds like you shocked this fish with all these WC’s.
10% per week would be plenty
 
Man, sorry for the losses!

How long was the rock out of the water? How did you dry it? What kind of glue and how much?

Pics of the corals might help.

Do you run GAC? GFO?

1 TDS RODI really should not be an issue IMO.

I’ve heard moving rock is a common way to acclimate fish, serving as kind of a distraction, so I’d be surprised if that alone were an issue. But, if there were any sponges on the rock for example, they can react to the air very negatively, producing toxins and subsequently releasing them into your water perhaps.

We’ll see what the experts here say...
 
Sometimes if you stir up too much detritus, it causes tank to spike with negative parameters. From that point, fish immune system becomes compromised and sps may be very unhappy. Best to test water parameters to see if you had an ammonia/nitrite spike.
 
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OK. Here goes. A little while back approximately 4 weeks ago, I performed a major display tank and sump, along with all equipment cleaning. During my cleaning I happen to jar loose one of the main rocks in my display. So to keep it from falling I grabbed ahold of it I took it out of the water dried off the base applied some superglue and attempted to reattach it. However, luck was just not on my side and I had to in-turn remodel a little bit on the left portion of my display. Without fault I began the process of making my fresh RODI salt water to do a 25% water change. I do this percent water change on a weekly basis sometimes bi weekly. I change my RODI filters and my resin as needed once my TDS shows one ppm. But as I made my water I noticed that it was replenishing my 30 gallon reserve tank and I was reading one part per million TDS. I became nervous as in the past when this has happened I would get a small outbreak of algae until I got my reserve water back with a 0 reading having replaced filters. Needless to say I finish my maintenance with the water I had mixed. So probability is that some of the one part per million TDS was now involved in my water change.
Now comes the hard part. The next morning I found my yellow tank floating dead. I immediately called the LFS and discussed the situation. I began to think that the issue was stress due to change in the rockwork. I maintain this thought for the next couple days and began to notice that the pigment in my 2 clown fish seemed to be fading on the upper portion of their body. My immediate cause for concern I reached out to be very helpful individual and she gave me some great advice. I believe that the situation may have been Brooklynella. Since I could not get the recommended 37% Formallin mixture to help combat the illness I got one of the alternates and started the treatment process. I was on able to capture all of my remaining fish however I did capture my Orange clown fish and put her in a QT. I continued to monitor all of the fish both main display and quarantine tank for the next couple days. In that time I lost my black male clown fish and then a day later my Orange clown fish. Throughout this treatment process I was caught off guard when I noticed that my posilipora seemed to be bleaching out. It was almost as if the meat on the skeleton was shedding off. So I panicked and immediately started mixing up more salt water to do another water change thinking that I was missing some other issue. While 2 days later the coral was completely bleached and no evidence of any meaty substance left on the skeleton. And I also noticed that now my bird's nest coral was starting to bleach out and seemed to be shedding its meaty layer. Finally, yesterday I lost my Royal gramma. In my tank I currently have a hammer, a frog spawn, a huge bubble coral, 3 different pieces of acro pora, a riccordia mushroom, and various green with blue spot mushrooms. I also have a few various zoas and polyps. (See attached pics). None of the remaining corals seem to have any distinguishable signs of infection. I have also since changed my RODI filters including the color changing resin. Besides continuing with frequent water changes I am totally baffled as to what is going on. Can anyone help?
This This tank has been up and running now for almost 2 years. All of my parameters are within the normal range. I have checked numerous times now since the onset of this situation.

Thank you in advance,
Jason
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Looks like brook :/. Did you get a chance to test parameters yet? If you want to save your fish, best to setup a quarantine tank and start treatment. With so much coral dying, definitely an ammonia spike will be present.
 
Fish definitely appear to have Brook. See attached links for treatment. If your changing water at 25%, monthly would be sufficient I would guess. Also I wouldn't be ultra concerned with 1ppm on a TDS. I would also feed vitamin enriched foods such as Selcon etc. while fish are in QT to help boost immune system. And continue after treatment as well.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/formalin.290925/

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/chloroquine-phosphate.192309/

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/metronidazole.298762/
 
+1 on Brook. Here's Humblefish's treatment and some pictures for you to compare. Highly recommend Ruby Reef Rally. https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/#post-2913287

Brooklynella:


Symptoms – This is most often seen in clownfish, but it can afflict any fish. The fish’s skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off, oftentimes causing excessive white mucous to form around the affected area(s).

Treatment options - Formalin or acriflavine bath, followed by additional baths (as needed - but give the fish a day to recuperate in-between baths). You can use formalin in a QT (at a much lower concentration than the bath), but great care must be taken to provide plenty of gas exchange as formalin will quickly deplete the water of oxygen. For this reason, doing baths is the safer option as the fish can be pulled from the formalin if showing signs of distress. Acriflavine is probably the better option for in-tank QT use.

The following products contain formalin: Formalin-MS (preferred), Quick Cure, Aquarium Solutions Ich-X, Kordon Rid-Ich Plus.

Acriflavine can be found in Acriflavine-MS (preferred) and Ruby Reef Rally.

Metronidazole (exs. Seachem MetroPlex, Metro-MS, Hikari Metro+) is considered an alternative treatment for brook. A freshwater dip may provide temporary relief if you are unable to locate any of the aforementioned medications right away. Some even claim total eradication of the disease is possible just by performing multiple FW dips on the fish. o_O
 
Well thank you all for the suggestions. I appreciate your time.
I may have to disassemble my rockwork as I cannot catch my last 3 fish. I will have to get them into quarantine. I am still a little concerned about why I lost my two corals though I'm just not sure if a spike in ammonia is what set off the death of the corals. I have recently tested again and I have 0 ammonia 0 nitrates.
OK thanks again guys!

Jason
 

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