Copper levels for flame scooter

[Jennifish]

Hi everyone,

I’m about to QT a pair of flame scooters, both are eating well. I’m just wondering if people known how well these guys handle copper?

I’ll be treating with cupramine, will the 0.5mg/ltr level be ok for them? (Plan to raise to that level over 4 days)

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi everyone,

I’m about to QT a pair of flame scooters, both are eating well. I’m just wondering if people known how well these guys handle copper?

I’ll be treating with cupramine, will the 0.5mg/ltr level be ok for them? (Plan to raise to that level over 4 days)

If referring to scooter blenny, I do not recommend copper and it would be coppersafe but rather General Cure or even chloroquine Phosphate.

 

[Jennifish]

Yes flame scooters blenny/dragonette, I’m not sure if we can get those treatments in the UK unfortunately…

the lfs has had them at 2.25ppm (they keep all the fish system at a therapeutic level generally). The female has been in that for a while (around 8 weeks) but the male will have only come in this week.

Does this mean they do not do well in copper?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yes flame scooters blenny/dragonette, I’m not sure if we can get those treatments in the UK unfortunately…

the lfs has had them at 2.25ppm (they keep all the fish system at a therapeutic level generally). The female has been in that for a while (around 8 weeks) but the male will have only come in this week.

Does this mean they do not do well in copper?

Often, dont do well in copper/coppersafe.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hi everyone,

I’m about to QT a pair of flame scooters, both are eating well. I’m just wondering if people known how well these guys handle copper?

I’ll be treating with cupramine, will the 0.5mg/ltr level be ok for them? (Plan to raise to that level over 4 days)

Cupramine is an ionic copper and is more stressful than coppersafe is. You could use coppersafe, or try chloroquine.

 

[Jennifish]

Cupramine is an ionic copper and is more stressful than coppersafe is. You could use coppersafe, or try chloroquine.

We can’t get either in the UK.
I’ll have to do a TTM and prazipro.

 

[Spare time]

What about hyposalinity?

 

[Jennifish]

What about hyposalinity?

I could do hypo, I’ll look into it. I just can’t deal with another Fallow and trying to catch out my royal gramma again from the DT… absolute nightmare. Need to be 100% sure the dragonettes won’t introduce anything.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

We can’t get either in the UK.
I’ll have to do a TTM and prazipro.

TTM is designed for ich, so it won’t work against direct development protozoans.

You could go with hyposalinity - that would cover you against ich and flukes at the same time, but it doesn’t treat velvet.

 

[Jennifish]

How long would QT need to be to ensure velvet isn’t present in the new fish After hypo treatment?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

How long would QT need to be to ensure velvet isn’t present in the new fish After hypo treatment?

That’s a tough question - some fish vets say 21 days, but that’s if the tank has no fish in it. Fish can possibly harbor a chronic infection for some unknown period of time.