Copper not working??

[Brisay01]

I purchased a male and female genicanthius ( swallowtail angelfish) from divers den a couple of weeks ago. Have them both in Qt ( but separated unfortunately since they were fighting ) Anyway, after about a week I noticed what I believe to be ich on the male . So far , nothing on the female, but they are sharing a tank so... I also noticed what possibly looks like maybe a bacterial infection on the males tail.

After a failed effort to get quality CP, I decided to slowly ( over 6 days ) dose cupramine monitored with a Hannah checker to 0.5ppm. The fish are acting completely normally, eating well and aside from the obvious white spots , look well. So they have been at 0.5 for 4 full days now and I don’t see any disappearance of the white spots . Inwas wondering how long it takes after the therapeutic dose of copper should I start seeing visible positive results . I do realize that I need to keep the copper therapeutic for 30 days . Thanks in advanc

 

[HotRocks]

That looks more like lympho from what I can see.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/

 

[4FordFamily]

That looks more like lympho from what I can see.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/

Agree with the ID. Oftentimes lympho comes with other ailments, any other symptoms?

If not just keep water clean and feed highly nutritious foods with vitamins

 

[Brisay01]

Agree with the ID. Oftentimes lympho comes with other ailments, any other symptoms?

If not just keep water clean and feed highly nutritious foods with vitamins

Would it be safe to say that if it was ich, I would have seen improvement in the reduction of the white spots ? It’s been 5 days at therapeutic dose of cupramine . Also, absolutely no other symptoms that I can see.
No appetite suppression . No lethargy , no scratching .

 

[4FordFamily]

Would it be safe to say that if it was ich, I would have seen improvement in the reduction of the white spots ? It’s been 5 days at therapeutic dose of cupramine . Also, absolutely no other symptoms that I can see.
No appetite suppression . No lethargy , no scratching .

Yes I would say that’s a relatively safe assumption. It looks like textbook lymph. It tends to worsen when we use other meds for other ailments and clears up relatively quickly in the absence of meds after treatment. It’s unsightly but generally harmless

 

[Brisay01]

Yes I would say that’s a relatively safe assumption. It looks like textbook lymph. It tends to worsen when we use other meds for other ailments and clears up relatively quickly in the absence of meds after treatment. It’s unsightly but generally harmless

Thanks for the advice . So I guess I should get all the copper out of the water ASAP and work on nutrition and vitamins , and optimal water quality ?

 

[4FordFamily]

Thanks for the advice . So I guess I should get all the copper out of the water ASAP and work on nutrition and vitamins , and optimal water quality ?

No, continue treatment as you would if lympho was not present. It’ll go away when you’re done, most likely

 

[Brisay01]

No, continue treatment as you would if lympho was not present. It’ll go away when you’re done, most likely

I may be a bit confused. I am treating with copper for what i thought was ich . Since now the diagnosis appears that it is not ich and lympho instead , copper would be unnecessary, correct ?

 

[4FordFamily]

I may be a bit confused. I am treating with copper for what i thought was ich . Since now the diagnosis appears that it is not ich and lympho instead , copper would be unnecessary, correct ?

If the fish had not been through 30 days fully therapeutic CP or Copper I’d assume it’s afflicted, due to the way the distribution system is these days. I’d treat prophylactially, personally.