Coppersafe sold out?

infinite0180 · May 9, 2018

im looking for coppersafe for my QT but it appears its sold out everywhere online... anybody know what gives? Anything other than ionic copper thats a good substitute? Thanks!

savetheocean · May 9, 2018

Amazon? I see it on amazon

savetheocean · May 9, 2018

Cupramine Copper

dealseer · May 9, 2018

Use Copper Power. Better product.

savetheocean · May 9, 2018

You can make your own decision, but do your research on each one.

HotRocks · May 9, 2018

+1 to copper power. What type of fish will you be treating with copper in quarantine?

infinite0180 · May 9, 2018

A pair of young clowns. Then a little while later maybe another small fish... i only have a 20 gallon tank. I was origonally going to dose cupramine but then i realized it has a smaller theraputic window and i heard its actually harder on fish. At this point i dont really know what to do. I just want to treat my new fish properly so that i have a great chance of success with them. I appriciate all the feedback here!

HotRocks · May 9, 2018

infinite0180 said:
A pair of young clowns. Then a little while later maybe another small fish... i only have a 20 gallon tank. I was origonally going to dose cupramine but then i realized it has a smaller theraputic window and i heard its actually harder on fish. At this point i dont really know what to do. I just want to treat my new fish properly so that i have a great chance of success with them. I appriciate all the feedback here!

Clowns tolerate copper really well. So any type will work. I personally have much better luck with copper power.

Testing is the part of using copper that is critical. I cannot emphasize that enough. Make sure you get the comprible test kit for whatever type of copper you purchase.

This may be very helpful to you. It's a chart many members compiled based on their experiences with the tank transfer method, ionic copper, chelated copper and chloroquine phosphate.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/fish-and-treatment-guidelines-with-chart.283450/

Copper power and coppersafe are both chelated forms of copper.

Cupramine and cuprion are ionic forms of copper.

Chelated copper can be tested with the API test kit. Or the Hanna high range copper checker.

Ionic can be tested with salifert or seachem test kits. Hanna checker also works well.

I have tested all above with the Hanna checker. All are very consistent, except coppersafe. I would not recommend the use of coppersafe without a Hanna checker on hand.

infinite0180 · May 9, 2018

Thanks. I think ill get an API kit with the copper power. Just to be clear copper power is made by a company called Endich and is the blue liquid right? Also, what concentration (in ppm) should i target for my 30 day treament? Any idea what the minimum is on the theaputic level, i want to be sure if i fall below to start my 30 days over again. I also plan on ramping it up to full strenght slowly. Thanks

HotRocks · May 9, 2018

Yes copper power blue by endich is what you want.

This link may be helpful with your questions. Also, if using API I would shoot for close to 2.0ppm as it's one of the sample colors on the comparison chart.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/ratios-for-dosing-copper-power.385871/