Coral Beauty cloudy eyes

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

I bought a coral beauty about a week ago and I now notice that it’s eyes look slightly cloudy, and both eyes have a white spot near the top. I didn’t notice it when I first put it in the tank so I think it is something it has developed. No I didn’t quarantine ik not a good idea. I haven’t seen it eat once since i put it in the tank. The other fish look fine. It was very hard to get a picture of but I think I got one good one. The other eye looks the same. I think it’s a bacterial infection but I wanted to ask everyone to get other opinions. I looked up other threads but none looked exactly like mine. whatever it is I don’t know how to treat it since I don’t have a qt tank to put it in. I’d appreciate any feedback!

Flippers4pups · Oct 15, 2020

I suspect bacterial infection as well:

Bacterial Infections

Why fish get bacterial infections What You Need To Know: * Infections can be caused by either Gram‐positive or Gram-negative bacteria. Gram-negative infections are typically more virulent, and more common in marine fish. * Bacterial infections are often "secondary" to a preexisting parasitic...

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You can try this:

"popeye"

Need a little help guys. I recently purchased a baby goldflake Angel and put him in QT. He's been there for about a week now. No prior treatments from me, although the vendor I got him from said they did TTM and prazipro. I noticed just now that one of eyes is bulging and there appears to be a...

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Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

Thanks for the articles

Flippers4pups · Oct 15, 2020

Will_WhatIsThis said:
Thanks for the articles

Your welcome! Best of luck with it!

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

Thannks! Also one more question. Would you say that my fish’s eye is normal, or also has Popeye in addition to t he bacterial infection? It doesn’t look anything close to the images I saw online with the extension of the eye.

Jay Hemdal · Oct 15, 2020

In addition to the cloudy eyes, the pectoral fin looks a bit cloudy and tattered. It has mild exophthalmos (popeye). That often goes hand in hand with eye cloudiness. So - it likely is a bacterial disease, but it could also be flukes. Does the fish seem to be breathing rapidly? What other fish are in the tank with it? You're pretty limited to what you can do to treat it on display, and the lack of feeding means that it is a critical issue.

Jay

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

The cb is in the tank with peaceful fish and I haven’t seen anyone bother it. It does seem to be breathing pretty fast. I would have noticed everything sooner but I thought that the fish might just be stressed from shipment, and it hides a lot in its cave so I don’t see it a lot.

Jay Hemdal · Oct 15, 2020

At this point, I’m still leaning towards a bacterial infection, but the rapid breathing could still point to flukes. Do you know how to do a 5 minute FW dip to check for flukes? I can walk you through that if you want to give it a try.
Jay

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

Jay Hemdal said:
At this point, I’m still leaning towards a bacterial infection, but the rapid breathing could still point to flukes. Do you know how to do a 5 minute FW dip to check for flukes? I can walk you through that if you want to give it a try.
Jay

I think I know the general idea of how to do it. You heat up some rodi water to tank temp and put an air stone in there and dip for 5 minutes?

Jay Hemdal · Oct 15, 2020

Yes, use a dark container and cover it so the fish doesn’t jump out. After putting the fish back in the tank, examine the bottom of the container for little white seed like things. Careful netting the CB, they can snag their gill spines in the net.
Jay

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

Jay Hemdal said:
Yes, use a dark container and cover it so the fish doesn’t jump out. After putting the fish back in the tank, examine the bottom of the container for little white seed like things. Careful netting the CB, they can snag their gill spines in the net.
Jay

That sounds like a good idea. I’ll try it tomorrow.

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 15, 2020

I read up on flukes and my fish is showing 3 signs of flukes which is hiding a lot, swimming near the surface, and being lethargic. I think the fw dip will be good for it.

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 16, 2020

Ok so I couldn’t wait to do the fw dip so I did it. It took an hour of me yelling at a fish in frustration but I finally got him. Let me tell you it was COVERED in flukes. It looked like a snowstorm in the pitcher. The photo does no justice.

Jay Hemdal · Oct 16, 2020

I can't see them in the picture, but did they look like tiny gray scales? Here is the thing though - if you had to chase the fish around for an hour, that is really stressful. If there are more than 50 or so flukes, when they all drop off, they each leave a tiny hole in the fish's skin, where blood leaks out. I'm really worried that the stress and the blood loss may prove fatal to the fish.

So, if the fish survived, now what? If it had Neobenedenia flukes, those are really difficult to eradicate. FW dips only keep them at bay, it won't cure them. The trouble is that these flukes lay eggs that can take up to 30 days to hatch, and there is nothing that can really kill the eggs. You can kill the adults off with FW dips or prazi, but then, a few weeks later, the eggs in the tank hatch out and the fish gets reinfected.

My treatment of choice is half salinity for 35 days, but of course, you can't do that with invertebrates present. You MIGHT be able to control it by giving all the fish a FW dip, then treat the tank three times, a week apart with Prazipro. That is safer for invertebrates.

Jay

vetteguy53081 · Oct 16, 2020

Asdure you don’t have high ammonia-nitrates-salinity. Often this begins with water quality. If water is good , melafix should assist with clearing up

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 16, 2020

As of now the fish is still alive. I’m going to buy a 10 gallon tank and set it up as a qt and do medication there. I don’t keep any large fish so I’ll use that tank for any new additions. Or is 10 gallons too small? It’s about time I got a qt tank, as that would have been the end of the problem from the beginning. Thanks for your help everyone.

Jay Hemdal · Oct 16, 2020

Will_WhatIsThis said:
As of now the fish is still alive. I’m going to buy a 10 gallon tank and set it up as a qt and do medication there. I don’t keep any large fish so I’ll use that tank for any new additions. Or is 10 gallons too small? It’s about time I got a qt tank, as that would have been the end of the problem from the beginning. Thanks for your help everyone.

Ten gallons is a bit on the small size for a quarantine tank, but it would be cheaper to medicate and do water changes on. The trouble is that going up a size, to say a 20 is going to increase the cost substantially (a 15 gallon wouldn't buy you much over the ten gallon). You'll want to ensure that you manage the ammonia well, keep it below 0.25 ppm at all times, through biofiltration, or water changes.

Jay

Will_WhatIsThis · Oct 16, 2020

Also if I fill the tank with water from my dt and put some of my marine pure spheres in there could I just move the fish over today and skip the cycle?

Jay Hemdal · Oct 16, 2020

Your DT water itself doesn't contain very much beneficial bacteria, not enough to skip a cycle. I don't know what marine pure spheres are, but if they are a substrate that bacteria can adhere to, and if they've been in your DT for awhile, they may help.

Jay