Coral Beauty - Problem?

LeonThePeon · Jan 29, 2017

I purchased a coral beauty about 3 days ago and have it in quarantine. Got it right when the LFS got its shipment - so it came home before the LFS even got it in their tank. When I got it home - I noticed a small white spot on the top fin - same spot, both sides:

Started eating on day 2; started venturing out into the open a little more today.

Don't know if this is some physical damage that just needs time to heal; start of some disease/parasite; or whether its just flat normal. Any thoughts on how I should treat would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

melypr1985 · Jan 29, 2017

Knowing it's short history I would venture to guess that it has an underlying parasite problem and what you are seeing there is the beginnings of an infection caused by that. It looks like it will keep growing bigger, so intervention is best done sooner than later.

LeonThePeon · Jan 29, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Knowing it's short history I would venture to guess that it has an underlying parasite problem and what you are seeing there is the beginnings of an infection caused by that. It looks like it will keep growing bigger, so intervention is best done sooner than later.

I started Prazipro last night - anything else I should use (instead)?

Servo · Jan 29, 2017

I suspect it is Lymphocystis.

melypr1985 · Jan 29, 2017

LeonThePeon said:
I started Prazipro last night - anything else I should use (instead)?

Too early to pinpoint anything, but running TTM is a good way to cover ick along with prazi for flukes. No chemicals other than the prazi involved. Being that it's an actual hole in the fin and not a white bump, I'm ruling out lymph for now.

4FordFamily · Jan 29, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Too early to pinpoint anything, but running TTM is a good way to cover ick along with prazi for flukes. No chemicals other than the prazi involved. Being that it's an actual hole in the fin and not a white bump, I'm ruling out lymph for now.

X2, looks like the beginnings of a bacterial infection to me. Keep a close eye on it and grab kanaplex and furan 2 just in case

LeonThePeon · Feb 4, 2017

Looks like it is spreading.

That spot wasn't there before. Any other thoughts? Still in QT.

Humblefish · Feb 4, 2017

If Prazipro had no impact on it, I would suggest treating for a bacterial disease next. Try Kanaplex and/or Furan-2 as @4FordFamily suggested.

LeonThePeon · Feb 4, 2017

Humblefish said:
If Prazipro had no impact on it, I would suggest treating for a bacterial disease next. Try Kanaplex and/or Furan-2 as @4FordFamily suggested.

2 doses of Prazipro had no affect. Went on to Kanaplex

LeonThePeon · Feb 7, 2017

After 2 48hr Kanaplex doses - still no affect. I gave it a FW dip and now back to 3rd Kanaplex dose for the night.

Reefahholic · Feb 8, 2017

I'm going with bacterial infection because I know these fish come in with them all the time. Keep running the antibiotics. Give the medication time to work.

Maritimer · Feb 8, 2017

Antibiotics take time on marine fish - ten days is a pretty normal run of treatment. Kanaplex & Furan-2 can be used together, and doing so will take out a wider range of bacteria.

~Bruce

LeonThePeon · Mar 2, 2017

Well, it's been a little over 2 months now since I started QT and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.

Also notice the discoloration just above the eyes. I'm starting to wonder if this is all a normal type of discoloration? Thoughts? (So far - 2 sets of Furan-2; Kanaplex with food; Selcon with food; low and stable cupramine)

Thanks

Maritimer · Mar 2, 2017

Kind of a stab in the dark, and probably going off half-cocked, but the discoloration above the eyes almost looks like HLLE to me - in which case, the Selcon should be helping . . .

~Bruce, waiting for the real fish health experts to drop by for a look . . .

Humblefish · Mar 2, 2017

Maritimer said:
Kind of a stab in the dark, and probably going off half-cocked, but the discoloration above the eyes almost looks like HLLE to me - in which case, the Selcon should be helping . . .

~Bruce, waiting for the real fish health experts to drop by for a look . . .

+1 I was just typing the same thing about HLLE above the eye when you posted.....

What does "low and stable cupramine" mean exactly? What concentration are you treating at and for how long now?

stevo01 · Mar 2, 2017

+1 @Maritimer

What foods/supplements have been offered?

LeonThePeon · Mar 2, 2017

Maritimer said:
Kind of a stab in the dark, and probably going off half-cocked, but the discoloration above the eyes almost looks like HLLE to me - in which case, the Selcon should be helping . . .

~Bruce, waiting for the real fish health experts to drop by for a look . . .

Thought had crossed my mind - even more so for the top 3 spots since nothing is really changing.

LeonThePeon · Mar 2, 2017

Humblefish said:
+1 I was just typing the same thing about HLLE above the eye when you posted.....

What does "low and stable cupramine" mean exactly? What concentration are you treating at and for how long now?

Running Cupramine since Feb 1 or 2. Don't have my notes in front of me. And I've kept it at 0.35-0.4. I think I had read CB were a sensitive to Cu - tried to keep it low but at therapeutic levels.

LeonThePeon · Mar 2, 2017

stevo01 said:
+1 @Maritimer

What foods/supplements have been offered?

Hikari Seaweed Extreme pellets (I think that was the name) - soaked w Selcon. And nori clipped - but never seems too interested in the nori.

Humblefish · Mar 2, 2017

LeonThePeon said:
Running Cupramine since Feb 1 or 2. Don't have my notes in front of me. And I've kept it at 0.35-0.4. I think I had read CB were a sensitive to Cu - tried to keep it low but at therapeutic levels.

I would go ahead & remove all the Cu. After 30 days, it's done its job.