CORAL DIPPING
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mrsaltwaterguy
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Are you going to a LFS? If so I'd pick up some Coral RX. Just follow the instructions and dip for 5-15 minutes. I can't tell you how many pests I've gotten off corals using CoralRx.
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Better yet, go to Home Depot and purchase Bayer Advance Insecticide.
Now dilute 1 ml to 100 mls of tank water. I typically do about 300 mls for a couple frags (so 3 mls of Bayer). Put the frags in and let them stew for 15 minutes. Now here's the important part. Rinse them in some tank water (THAT IS NOT RETURNED TO YOUR TANK.) Throw that rinse water out and rinse them one more time, and you're good to go.
If you easily can, remove the frags from their plugs. Some plugs absorb the Bayer, and that's not a good thing. Re-glue the frags to new plugs, if that's what you wish to do.
Now dilute 1 ml to 100 mls of tank water. I typically do about 300 mls for a couple frags (so 3 mls of Bayer). Put the frags in and let them stew for 15 minutes. Now here's the important part. Rinse them in some tank water (THAT IS NOT RETURNED TO YOUR TANK.) Throw that rinse water out and rinse them one more time, and you're good to go.
If you easily can, remove the frags from their plugs. Some plugs absorb the Bayer, and that's not a good thing. Re-glue the frags to new plugs, if that's what you wish to do.
domination2580
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But here's a question.Better yet, go to Home Depot and purchase Bayer Advance Insecticide.
Now dilute 1 ml to 100 mls of tank water. I typically do about 300 mls for a couple frags (so 3 mls of Bayer). Put the frags in and let them stew for 15 minutes. Now here's the important part. Rinse them in some tank water (THAT IS NOT RETURNED TO YOUR TANK.) Throw that rinse water out and rinse them one more time, and you're good to go.
If you easily can, remove the frags from their plugs. Some plugs absorb the Bayer, and that's not a good thing. Re-glue the frags to new plugs, if that's what you wish to do.
I'm guessing if they are already on a plug, taking it off because of cause sip might not be handy ..so could u kind of rinse a third time or let it soak in some water so that the plug gets rid of most of the Bayer?
Lenny_S
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Insecticide dip seems risky, but I've never tried it myself. I use ReVive and the corals seem to actually acclimate and open up faster than not dipping at all. If you can get some that's your best bet. Plan 'B' IMHO would be to wait on the corals until you get some, plan 'C' would be to use insecticide.
Once you introduce a pest, it's almost impossible to get rid of them. I'm very much the careful type.
Once you introduce a pest, it's almost impossible to get rid of them. I'm very much the careful type.
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Agreed!
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I use Bayer all the time. 5 ml per cup of water. I usually just empty the contents of the shipment (coral/water) into a small container. Add the 5ml of Bayer per cup of water. Stir a bit every few minutes.
In about 15 minutes take the coral out and rinse with tank water. I actually use this opportunity to do a bit of a water change. I will take some tank water out and use that to rinse.
In about 15 minutes take the coral out and rinse with tank water. I actually use this opportunity to do a bit of a water change. I will take some tank water out and use that to rinse.
Bayer advanced is not risky at all. I do it and I know a certain member on here who's tank was featured with thousands of dollars of high in corals that uses it.
I use a 50/50 ratio for 10 minutes. Using tank water not RODI. Then rinse twice in tank water, like suggested above. I repeat every 5 days, this gets the aefw eggs that might have hatched for 1 month.
There are several threads about this on this site. Look up coral dipping or coral qt.
I use a 50/50 ratio for 10 minutes. Using tank water not RODI. Then rinse twice in tank water, like suggested above. I repeat every 5 days, this gets the aefw eggs that might have hatched for 1 month.
There are several threads about this on this site. Look up coral dipping or coral qt.
Lenny_S
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I have not tried the Seachem version, so j can't comment from experience. But Seachem makes a lot of great stuff, so I would have confidence in their products.
Bayer is pretty tough to swallow for a new reefer.
Coral rx etc are all pretty good and easy to follow ,effective dips as well and have less risk of nuking a tank.
peroxide is also a good and less risky reef safe alternative. 5 w to 1 p for 4 to 5 min. use tank water. usually the pods/ bristleworms float up and then stop moving.
RO is ok but needs to be ph balanced. again. kinda advanced.
after the dip keep an eye on the corals as you may not have gotten eggs. they are tiny and bayer coral rx peroxide arent effective on them. According to many on the forum.
Coral rx etc are all pretty good and easy to follow ,effective dips as well and have less risk of nuking a tank.
peroxide is also a good and less risky reef safe alternative. 5 w to 1 p for 4 to 5 min. use tank water. usually the pods/ bristleworms float up and then stop moving.
RO is ok but needs to be ph balanced. again. kinda advanced.
after the dip keep an eye on the corals as you may not have gotten eggs. they are tiny and bayer coral rx peroxide arent effective on them. According to many on the forum.
True, but in my experience and that of others Bayer is actually more gentle on corals than coral rx, at least. I haven't used others.
I get polyp extension often Bayer, not so much with coral rx. It is easier to see what has been killed with coral rx because it stays clear. I guess baby steps. [emoji2]
True, but in my experience and that of others Bayer is actually more gentle on corals than coral rx, at least. I haven't used others.
I get polyp extension often Bayer, not so much with coral rx. It is easier to see what has been killed with coral rx because it stays clear. I guess baby steps. [emoji2]
Lenny_S
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I went to the website and read up on Bayer Advanced as pictured earlier.
If that stuff works for a coral dip for folks, then more power to them.
However, on the label there are all sorts of warnings about the product, not the least of which is in the precautionary statements... "This product is highly toxic to aquatic invertebrates and fish"
I suppose that is good since most coral pests are some form of invertebrate. But the toxins in that seem rather indiscriminate and rather persistent in bonding with organic and inorganic materials. Hence the multiple rinses I see in most usage articles as a dip.
To each his own I say, but do me this is too close to playing with fire. I'll stick with the purpose designed coral dips.
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Would you feel a bit more comfortable if I told you Bayer is made of an extract from Chrysanthemum flowers and a tobacco tea.....well almost....it's now all synthetic? The history on these ingredients has been around for over 150 years. And of course it kills invertebrates.
I've been using it for years, and haven't had a single coral die. Note that as with any other dip, it will not kill eggs. Search any saltwater fish site and you'll find years of history of its use as a coral dip.
Please, smell CoralRX and some of the others.....some smell just like Lestoil or PineSol....and who knows what's in those?
I've been using it for years, and haven't had a single coral die. Note that as with any other dip, it will not kill eggs. Search any saltwater fish site and you'll find years of history of its use as a coral dip.
Please, smell CoralRX and some of the others.....some smell just like Lestoil or PineSol....and who knows what's in those?
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Lenny_S
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I actually don't feel any better knowing what that stuff comes from.
I have read a lot of posts from people with success using Bayer, works for them, and could work for others.
My personal preference is to just use things that were specifically engineered for their purpose.
What is great about this hobby is that people get very creative with these sorts of things, and I do appreciate their creativity.
For instance, rather than using something like Seachem Flourish Phosphorus to add that nutrient to a tank if you need to, you can use a Fleet enema. Totally works, but I personally would choose to use the Seachem stuff.
I don't know what's in Coral RX, I use ReVive. It has Oleum abietis and citrus lemon in it, which has a pine sol aroma to it.
I have read a lot of posts from people with success using Bayer, works for them, and could work for others.
My personal preference is to just use things that were specifically engineered for their purpose.
What is great about this hobby is that people get very creative with these sorts of things, and I do appreciate their creativity.
For instance, rather than using something like Seachem Flourish Phosphorus to add that nutrient to a tank if you need to, you can use a Fleet enema. Totally works, but I personally would choose to use the Seachem stuff.
I don't know what's in Coral RX, I use ReVive. It has Oleum abietis and citrus lemon in it, which has a pine sol aroma to it.
I think the point is a newb should probably start with the easy stuff.
And having read the great discussion, probably learned a lot.
And having read the great discussion, probably learned a lot.
