Corals need Vitamin C

I agree that some folks were very bullish on it, but others saw no effect, beyond what might be expected from organic carbon dosing and possible boosting of alkalinity.

FWIW, the original article citation didn't actually claim (at least that I saw in the summary) that corals need vitamin C from the water, or even that this transporter is used to take it up from the water. These transporters may be moving the vitamin C that the coral otherwise already has (from synthesis or feeding on phytoplankton, for exmaple) from one location to another, such as to the site of calcification. There are other transporters, for example, which drive calcium and carbonate to the place for calcification to form skeletons, and it is also known that organics play a big role in controlling the process. Perhaps the transporters in this study are only doing that, rather than collecting a ascorbate from the ocean, which is likely present at very low concentrations (and I've never even seen a measurement of it in the ocean).
 
Feed enough and everything will get enough vitamin C along with many other vitamins, minerals, aminos, etc . That along with some kind of water change and you're set. Or get into dosing and testing but can't test for everything.
 
It depends on what you feed. Vitamin C is one of the most fragile vitamins out there and our fish are even lacking in many cases. I feed fresh fruit to get it in them and also add a product to the food called Stay-C. I've tested many products and food items and after a very short time of being opened, they show no active C. I've tested Brightwells product and I was expecting it to be low as it was a year old. It was still actually still loaded and good to use. I don't dose for corals, but if my fish are not getting it in the food, neither are the corals.
 
Vitamin C is one of the most fragile vitamins out there and our fish are even lacking in many cases. I feed fresh fruit to get it in them and also add a product to the food called Stay-C. .

What do you notice in fish if they are deficient in vitamin C?
 
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It depends on what you feed. Vitamin C is one of the most fragile vitamins out there and our fish are even lacking in many cases. I feed fresh fruit to get it in them and also add a product to the food called Stay-C. I've tested many products and food items and after a very short time of being opened, they show no active C. I've tested Brightwells product and I was expecting it to be low as it was a year old. It was still actually still loaded and good to use. I don't dose for corals, but if my fish are not getting it in the food, neither are the corals.


Yes, I believe we've has some discussions of food before and what should and shouldn't be fed.
 
I can't say I've actually "seen" symptoms of lack of vitamin C in my own fish. It would be a bold statement if I attributed anything to that without proof. It's because many of the symptoms are so vague, you cannot contribute it to one thing or another on a hobbyist level. Studies show things like anorexia, neurological changes, frayed "chewed" fins, increased sensitivity to shock, curved spines, those kind of things. If you would like for me to get some of my articles together for a more specific list, I would be more than happy to! I love talking about nutrition, but I realize this is a coral thread, so I'm not sure one would be interested in "fish facts".

I personally use vitamin C (or fruit) for the immunity factors. Some of the challenges they tested, were for things like lack of food, crowding, poor water quality, illness, drastic/quick changes in environment (salinity/temp/oxygen level, etc), handling in general and air exposure. All the things aquaculture fish deal with everyday, so you can see why they are so interested. They've done all this testing specific to C to make sure it is as important as it seems, before they go through the work and expense to try and figure out how to get this vitamin to the fish. They are still not happy with what's out there because it is labour intensive and very expensive.

If my fish are not eating (or not being fed properly due to training) I use Vitamin C in the tank itself. It's one of those beautiful vitamins that they can take in through the gills, directly into their blood stream. At least I can still get that into them during these times. Otherwise I give it to them in food (fruit and Stay C).
 
I kid you not about the fruit..... EVERYONE in my family likes my homegrown strawberries! (It's a QT/Training tank.... so ignore the tank and the yellow lighting. :-)

 
It depends on what you feed. Vitamin C is one of the most fragile vitamins out there and our fish are even lacking in many cases. I feed fresh fruit to get it in them and also add a product to the food called Stay-C. I've tested many products and food items and after a very short time of being opened, they show no active C. I've tested Brightwells product and I was expecting it to be low as it was a year old. It was still actually still loaded and good to use. I don't dose for corals, but if my fish are not getting it in the food, neither are the corals.

How did you test the food for vitamin C?
 
Now that was something I've not seen before. :p

He'll eat them all except blueberries. What's up with that! None of my preds will eat Blueberries.

I feed them a lot of odd things.
 
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He'll eat them all except blueberries. What up with that! None of the preds will eat Blueberries.

I feed them a lot of odd things.


So the conclusion is; predatory fish don't eat blueberries, therefore they don't like antioxidants; meaning fish are antivaxers.
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So the conclusion is; predatory fish don't eat blueberries, therefore they don't like antioxidants; meaning fish are antivaxers.
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