corals which not handle Bayer dip

[Beonedge]

hello
reading @psxerholic thread , found out that Ice Fire Echinata can not handle Bayer dip - there’s noted “ they do not handle dips very well at all “ and Andre wrote “That's right, I have to do a long but careful dip and if needed, surgery as well. Echinata tend to have worms in the skeleton. I do Bayer and a separate dip in Interceptor which takes a few hours in separate containers.”
Can someone explain what “long and careful” dip means ? Also is there any other species that should be avoided Bayer dip?

 

[reefrf]

Hello,
In my experience most smooth skin Acro’s struggle with most dips. Personally, I only use Melafix for dipping Acro’s. It’s effective & pretty gentle for the corals.

 

[Beonedge]

thanks , will research how to use and when Melafix is better than Bayer (and what smooth skin acro means )

 

[reefrf]

thanks , will research how to use and when Melafix is better than Bayer (and what soft skin acro means )

Sounds good. I mainly like Melafix over Bayer because it’s more natural & does not cloud the water, enabling me to see if any pests are at the bottom of the white bucket. Many people love bayer but Personally I’ve used Melafix to fight off aefw & Melafix worked great!

 

[Daniel@R2R Verified Admin]

Also is there any other species that should be avoided Bayer dip?

Bumping this up for more input

 

[BoomCorals]

I have not had anything react poorly to Bayer dip.

 

[Big E]

Sounds good. I mainly like Melafix over Bayer because it’s more natural & does not cloud the water, enabling me to see if any pests are at the bottom of the white bucket. Many people love bayer but Personally I’ve used Melafix to fight off aefw & Melafix worked great!

Do you dose per instructions on the bottle?

 

[ihavecrabs]

Tagging along. I have also not had any coral that did not take the dip well.

Some browning out on a few sensitive maris ones, but that could have been anything (transport, parameter changes between systems, etc). Nothing their respective captive grown specimens couldn't handle

 

[cooltowncorals]

+1 no issues with Bayer at all.

 

[reefrf]

Do you dose per instructions on the bottle?

I do not. I do approximately 10-15 mL per 1 quart of tank water

 

[jda]

I have never had a smoothie respond poorly to a bayer dip. I use a lot of bayer, too. I use so much, that I warm it up to tank temp because it can drop the temp in the mixing bucket.

 

[TexasTodd]

Isn't the dose to kill AEFW 30ml per 80z which is darn close to 1oz per 8 oz of tank water?

 

[BoomCorals]

Isn't the dose to kill AEFW 30ml per 80z which is darn close to 1oz per 8 oz of tank water?

Edit: this is correct

 

[wowkingjames]

Interesting, following.... ;Doctor

 

[TexasTodd]

https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/bayer-vs-the-dreaded-acropora-eating-flatworm.359/

Here is where I saw the 15ml per HALF cup listed.

Todd

 

[jda]

I just float it to get the temp up and then glug some in. I do not even measure it. I am sure that it is more like 20% bayer and 80% water if I get a piece that I am worried about... never any issues.

 

[BoomCorals]

https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/bayer-vs-the-dreaded-acropora-eating-flatworm.359/

Here is where I saw the 15ml per HALF cup listed.

Todd

Yep sorry I misquoted myself. . 20-30ml per cup is correct.

 

[Big E]

I do not. I does approximately 10-15 mL per 1 quart of tank water

Thanks, what is the time duration of the dip?
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For anyone posting Bayer levels please share your time duration of the dip.

 

[BoomCorals]

10 minutes

 

[reefrf]

Thanks, what is the time duration of the dip?
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For anyone posting Bayer levels please share your time duration of the dip.

Yes, 10 minutes