Could these have killed all my sps/lps?

[Green1181]

I’ve been having lots of my stony corals die off and pretty much lost them all but an elegance (out of maybe 40 good size pieces). Had an icp test done, had high phosphates which have been lowered to 0.05-0.08 from over 0.2 which is what I had blamed it on initially but corals are still dying.

I dont qt corals, just dip, and am thinking now it may be a pest problem. below are a few pictures that I am thinking may be vermited snails and maybe flatworms on the hammer?

can you guys tell me what you think? And if you’ve dealt with these before, what shoud I do?

thanks

 

[fishguy242]

hi kinda hard to see,but i think i see flatties

 

[ScottR]

I see lots of vermatid snails. Do you notice mucous-like nets cast over your corals?

 

[Green1181]

I see lots of vermatid snails. Do you notice mucous-like nets cast over your corals?

I just had a good look, there are hundreds of them but no mucous strings at all.

 

[fishguy242]

not many people are going to agree with this, i would try to knock down by dip and swish in reg tap water quickly and vigorlesly ,litte warmer than tank,like5 seconds,flatties will die immediately,some snails will drop take a min flick off as many as you can,knock down populations

 

[Green1181]

I have one coral I can removed and try, all the other rocks are stuck together with hydraulic cement into a 100 lb and 50 lb piece.

Would you think it was more likely the flatworms or vermatid snails that killed the corals?

From the pic it's hard to judge size, but the dots are maybe 1/2mm. I've seen euphyllia eating flatworms and they were much larger.

 

[fishguy242]

both? dont dip corals in fresh

 

[fishguy242]

i was talking rock

 

[fishguy242]

they were definatly on under side on meat of hammer [flatties]

 

[Allen glover]

I’ve been having lots of my stony corals die off and pretty much lost them all but an elegance (out of maybe 40 good size pieces). Had an icp test done, had high phosphates which have been lowered to 0.05-0.08 from over 0.2 which is what I had blamed it on initially but corals are still dying.

I dont qt corals, just dip, and am thinking now it may be a pest problem. below are a few pictures that I am thinking may be vermited snails and maybe flatworms on the hammer?

can you guys tell me what you think? And if you’ve dealt with these before, what shoud I do?

thanks

That’s a LOT of vermetids and their fillaments aren’t always that easy to see. Turn your flow off wait 5 mins and stir up some silt to adhere to the filament to get a good grasp on how bad it is are you fish highly agitated ?

 

[dwest]

I see lots of vermatid I believe. I have lots of them too. They seem to irritate my sps frags but haven’t killed corals.

 

[fishguy242]

vermatid are the ones that eat zoas ?

 

[fishguy242]

30 years in,lots of knowedge,but when it comes to all the techical names,my way is when in doubt,take it out

 

[Rybren]

vermatid are the ones that eat zoas ?

No, Vermitids cast a net and capture food in the water column, then retract the net to eat the food.

They may irritate corals, but in my experience, they won't kill them. I have lots of them in my tank.

 

[GlassMunky]

You do have a lot of vermitid snails, but I honestly doubt they would kill your corals. Irritate them with mucus webs sure but not down right kill.
I think there’s something else going on

 

[fishguy242]

i think i have seen almost pest there is,ecept the new one that are idenified every day,lol,from apstasia to the rare acro eating spiders,but always found a way to get rid of physicly or naterally ,no chems,never

 

[madlos123]

I got a million vermited snails in my 40 gallons LPS tank. never seen them kill one. I think it could be many different things such as Pest, bacteria, water parameters, Light, flow, and more.

 

[fishguy242]

I got a million vermited snails in my 40 gallons LPS tank. never seen them kill one. I think it could be many different things such as Pest, bacteria, water parameters, Light, flow, and more.

nice lps going there