Cyano treatment

[stickman87]

So I have the start of a cyano outbreak and started using Dr tims refresh and waste away about a week ago because I have heard good things about it but is not helping.
Nitrates .25
Ammonia 0
Ph 7.8
Phosphate about 1.0

Is there any way to bring the phosphate down? I only use Rodi water and am guessing that is what the cyano is feeding from.

 

[Oscar47f]

Siphon is out as much as possible during water changes and maybe try increasing flow, and try and remove as much detritus as possible every time you do a water change. it should help.

 

[AntarcticIkeelu]

What kind of filtration system do you have?

 

[stickman87]

It's a 40 breeder with a 20 gallon sump I have more than enough flow too the power head hits all rocks and the algae is swaying

 

[AntarcticIkeelu]

I would add some type of Macro algae to your sump, that can really cut the phosphates back, and it's a good way to get some pod population growing which will add some biodiversity to your system

 

[lake985]

Chemiclean has worked great for me.
http://www.marinedepot.com/Boyd_Che...nterprises_(Chemi_Pure)-BE1115-FIADAL-vi.html

 

[cwalton00]

I would get rid of all those pot scrubbers. If you are worried about filtration get some matrix or marine pure. Also that phosphate level needs to come down. Start running phosguard with changes every 3 to 4 days.

 

[stickman87]

I was thinking about some chaeto but was worried about lighting... No light it will just die won't it? And I've heard chemi clean takes the oxygen out if the water and easier for the fish to die?

 

[jwshiver]

Chemi Clean will knock it out in 48 hours. Leave the skimmer cup off and let it overflow to help oxygenate the water. Do a larger water change than what the instructions say because your skimmer will go nuts after the treatment. You still need to get your parameters in line or it could come back. You can try GFO or look into carbon dosing to get your phosphate down. Carbon dosing will require some homework and is more of a commitment than GFO. Make sure your not over feeding.

 

[nervousmonkey]

I was thinking about some chaeto but was worried about lighting... No light it will just die won't it? And I've heard chemi clean takes the oxygen out if the water and easier for the fish to die?

chemi clean won't kill your fish, just aerate with an air pump. I would definitely recommend it, it works super well.

 

[stickman87]

Ok I'll get a gfo reactor and use the chemi clean and see if it works thanks

 

[stickman87]

But because I am already using the refresh can I still use the chemi clean?

 

[nervousmonkey]

Sure! refresh is just bacteria, so chemiclean will be fine. Be aware that your skimmer will go nuts, and they tell you to turn it off, but just take the lid off since it provides such good air exchange. I did that and didn't use an airstone and everything was fine. It even killed off some other algaes in the tank.

 

[Tahoe61]

Used Chemiclean with great results, it took 48 hours but no cyano return and it's been about 1.5 months. I did use an air stone with simple air pump though. Would not hesitate to use again.

 

[stickman87]

Ok I'll get some tonight

 

[floridabromo]

Chemi Clean works so welllll! I used it for mine literally 2 days ago and it's completely gone.. you dose it and within 48 hours it is all gone

 

[Anirban]

Hey, sorry to say but nothing is going to solve the issue you have unless you correct your parameters. If you are correctly measuring and your PO4 is really 1 and nitrate 0.25 then your tank has a huge nutrient imbalance. The PO4 should come down near 0.05 and NO3 2-5ppm. Take out those pot scrubbers they will not help you with nutrient control. Get some marinpure or siporax and some good bacteria like Microbactor 7 or Prodibio Biodigest. Feed less and use GFO. Once you see that PO4 and NO3 are at desirable level then use chemiclean to kill it. If you use it now it will be back within days.

 

[Brandon42]

Iv used chemiclean before with success but it always came back after. And @Anirban is right it will continue to come back until your nutrients are in check. What finally killed it for me was a chemiclean treatment, started running gfo and using a product called cyano clean. It's a bacteria solution that targets cyano and works wonders. Any time I see any in the tank I get a small bottle of that and it takes care of it with no stress to anything.

 

[nervousmonkey]

Yeah, these guys are right, I didn't look at your nutrient levels. That PO4 level will always bring on cyano, at least IME. Or it provides a great environment for it. ChemiClean is what you use to treat cyano, or erythromycin, but that will not keep it away. GFO, or get a 10 micron filter sock and some Phosphate-E from Brightwell Aquatics, or lanthanum chloride, and slowly drip it into the 10 micron sock. Or make a lanthanum Cl reactor.

You need that PO4 level to come down; are you feeding a lot? I bet it is coming from the foods you feed. Flake and pellets always increase my PO4 levels, frozen foods from places like LRS or @Reef Nutrition are awesome to keep the ability to feed a lot (anthias, other fish that need multiple feedings/day), but keep nutrients down and fish healthier. Anyway, just get the PO4 level down any way you can. If you can do it quickly, meaning you don't have a lot of corals that would be upset, get some lanthanum chloride, same thing as Phosphate-E, use that with some good filter material, get some PhosGuard which reduces phosphate levels quickly, and get a GFO reactor if you don't have one already and just start using it. It's worth it. Also try to set up a refugium in your sump, or you can get Gracilaria for your DT, which reduces PO4 more than other macroalgaes, and looks great too.

 

[Murica]

Just made my tank bare bottom, best cyano cure around! [emoji106]