Cycle stuck or done? Help
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terraincognita
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I don't understand your question.
shrive81
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I believe he is saying that if you had a drop of ammonia in the tank and that it has leveled out that the "initial" cycle is done but to add fish you would need to do a 100% water change as it would remove the ammonia but the cycled bacteria that are present on the surfaces of rock and substrate would remain and the tank would be ready for the next step
why are the rocks not totally white, there seems to be coralline
were these rocks wet in the pet store or dry
number of posts I can find where a tester says there's free ammonia where there isn't: a google
both the number and the verb align here he he
a non digital test kit's ammonia reading, any brand, isn't the final say or even much of a reference here. seneye would be, working and calibrated.
but the nitrate happens to be
and coralline if so
and being already live when the rock showed up or not
were these rocks wet in the pet store or dry
number of posts I can find where a tester says there's free ammonia where there isn't: a google
both the number and the verb align here he he
a non digital test kit's ammonia reading, any brand, isn't the final say or even much of a reference here. seneye would be, working and calibrated.
but the nitrate happens to be
and coralline if so
and being already live when the rock showed up or not
terraincognita
Valuable Member
This confused me ......
But I think he just used "Life" rock dead when dry, but it comes to life when wet. I think they color it too.
me too. I wonder why nobody has asked those questions, based on the pics posted. What comes to your mind first vs mine/different
asking whether a set of rocks was wet or dry is about the most basic question of all. and clear
asking whether a set of rocks was wet or dry is about the most basic question of all. and clear
shrive81
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the rock is the life rock that has color added to it that helps the appearance, aka it is manufactured rock and they add the color and i believe it is also imbedded with some bacteria as well.
Not sure how to make it clearer, in the part of your post I quoted you say if the ammonia is 1ppm or less the initial cycle is complete to support life, so my question is , are you saying you can put animals in a tank with 1ppm ammonia?
terraincognita
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No dude.
I'm not.
No PPM is safe. And this is the 2nd thread you come after me.
Even the OP Who's asking about the "cycle" understood what I meant by "safe" and cycle "finished" He answered up top.
Also I strongly believe he's mis reading the tests. No tank "sits stably" at 1ppm ammonia.
I'm sure it's 0.
Please just leave me alone bro whoever you are. I really don't know why you have a penchant towards me.
It’s a debate no one is coming after you, if you go back and read the other thread you mention you’ll see you were the one being aggressive not me.
I thought it worth pointing out as your post seemed to be saying the opposite of what you have just said.
terraincognita
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Alright, we'll I'm here posting to help the OP figure out his tank. He understood what I meant. And that's really all that matters. HE also posted that he understood what I meant and explained it before you continued to pursue your passive aggressive argument.
You may say I'm being agressive but I live in L.A. I can smell your passive agressiveness through my screen.
shrive81
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easy fellas hahahaha i know this is frustrating lets all just get along hahahaha. I think the cycle thing is always up for debate... could i probably do a 100% water change to remove remaining ammonia and add fish.....most likely, could i also wait and hope for the ammonia to go away on its own in hopes it will continue to be consummed.... probably hahahaha i guess in all reality there is no right or wrong answer really hahaha
we like cycling fisticuffs here its evolution in progress
at the end of the day we recoil w wounds into our camps and heal up, I wake up a 4am looking for nitrite posts to berate/early bird worm
pm sent
at the end of the day we recoil w wounds into our camps and heal up, I wake up a 4am looking for nitrite posts to berate/early bird worm
pm sent
terraincognita
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Lol yeah. I'd double check your measurements on your tests. If you want you can post your results and we can verify it it's actually still 1 PPM or not.
Otherwise a good WC and some Starter Bacteria like Dr. Toms or similar and I'd say you could indeed safely add fish.
I personally cycle WITH fish regardless every time, I add 2 fish day two to all my tanks with a little bacteria, so they do happen to live through 1PPM ammonia anyway. surprise. But each to their own.
Since it's your first fish you can chose to QT or not.
You'll just have to seperate any that show signs after if they do.
Otherwise a good WC and some Starter Bacteria like Dr. Toms or similar and I'd say you could indeed safely add fish.
I personally cycle WITH fish regardless every time, I add 2 fish day two to all my tanks with a little bacteria, so they do happen to live through 1PPM ammonia anyway. surprise. But each to their own.
Since it's your first fish you can chose to QT or not.
You'll just have to seperate any that show signs after if they do.
to be fair, since our last interaction I have tried not to comment on your posts as you really came across as aggressive when I was clearly trying to help, as said go back and read that thread and you’ll see who was being passive aggressive, I failed to notice it was you when I commented this time.
I will not comment on your posts again unless you directly comment on mine.
I mess up lots of times in what I write/tone. I just try and back edit it b4 someone quote captures me. will only post on open-edit sites due to this lol.
terraincognita
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Bro it's really not that, just maybe rephrase your question so it doesn't come off rude.
i.e.
"You said 1ppm is safe, maybe I misunderstasnd but that's definitely not safe for fish. no ppm is safe. Are you saying 1ppm is okay? i disagree and that confused me"
vs.
"So you're saying 1PPM is safe?"
In some effort to get me to admit to something that is incorrect in order to pin me into an argument when that's.
1. Not why I'm on this forum.
2. Not why I'm answering any posts in this thread to begin with.
If you were genuinely concerned about me mis-informing the OP the first response I typed would've been like 200x more socially acceptable.
Good day.
my aim in the way I posted was to first be clear on what you were saying, asking you to confirm if I understood clearly or you had explained your point correctly instead of assuming I had understood correctly and then to comment on that, hence why I asked the question the way I did.
