Cycling done maybe

[Fishlover56]

Hiya
my tank has been doing a fish food cycle for a monthat the start i brought the ammonia up to around 2-3ppm with fish food it was hard to keep it like this but managed to my nitrites raised to 5ppm at peak but now its at 0 after 35 days of cycling so tomorrow i have a Better ammonia test kit coming tomorrow as i know the api one can give false true reads so if this comes as 0 and nitrites stay at 0 after a water change for nitrates would it be ready to add fish.
my ph swings between 7.9 and 8.2.

for the first Fish a have a coral beuaty and one clownfish in my 15 gallon right now which one should i add first and how long should i wait to add the other

many thanks

 

[brandon429]

yes it can house fish
their combined load is ok for any system ramping up a month using live rocks


but if you add them, have prevention in place for this event

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[Fishlover56]

Thanks I do have a lot of treatments at hand for an emergency, should i transfer the clown first, then wait a few weeks before the coral beauty.
but obsvious i will look over the clownfish ever day for problems and stuff.
thanks!

 

[brandon429]

why dont we proof your new tank for readiness before adding

100% Water Change

So in my previous thread, I had an ammonia issue that was out of hand. As suggested, I did a 100% WC and now i’m wondering when I should start adding fish back. If anyone has suggestions, let me know!

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see post #4


then whichever order you want to add the fish wont matter. the tank will be ready for sure, if you align API as we do in post #4

the fish are already habituated to each other in the 15, you can proof the new tank ready above.


did you know in our big cycling thread, we dont have a single person who has cycled without bottle bac

but it is possible, all cycling charts are 30 days for this reason. you might have a very unique type of cycle we can proof before adding the fish.

 

[Fishlover56]

So add a bit of every treatment i have

 

[brandon429]

no lets wait on fish till we proof it

I noticed you didnt mention using bottled bacteria, we should proof the cycle, change out the water then you can run the disease control. I think no additives will work for disease control, only fallow and quarantine but for the current step we should see if the fish food cycled the tank.

 

[Fishlover56]

Ok thanks so change some water then add disease control like ich treatment You mean

 

[brandon429]

almost but it has to be in this order:

do the ammonia assessment from post 4 in that thread, we dont know if your tank is cycled. I missed on the first post that you didnt use bottle bac, so now we need to proof the cycle, and cannot do that off the info from first post.


after cycle is proofed, no additive will work for disease prevention. what you have bought won't work, they'll still catch ich.

only fallow and quarantining works for new tank startups + unaged live rock and boxed food fed systems

fish disease prevention takes a few hour's read in the fish disease forum, and no store bought additives work reliably, what works reliably is there for study its a process of fallow/disease and materials handling order to keep the fish alive.

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[brandon429]

post a pic of your new tank, lets see if the rocks are bare white or aged live rocks

 

[Fishlover56]

Yea its night time in the uk just past midnight so its dark but i can in the morning. The rock was in an old tank So it aged then. But its been in storage for a year in a tub so its dry rock now.

 

[brandon429]

Good detail, agreed we should verify readiness then u can choose care options etc

 

[Fishlover56]

Cool thanks i will do that first think in the morning, i did forget to add some brown film started to form on the glass nearly 14 days ago but i have been going over it with a mag cleaner everyday.

 

[brandon429]

That small detail is a specific clue from the microbiology of cycling thread


rule of adhered growth forms for verifying cycle completion

any tank running long enough to have biofilm growth on the rocks, sand or glass is cycled. It never fails. The rock from its prior condition brings in bacteria, the assembly process brought in contamination filter bacteria / rule of handling nonsterile water + weeks stewing, fed. I’ll bet it’s cycled.


in every likelihood it will pass oxidation testing I’m confident. These things are fun to test

 

[Fishlover56]

That small detail is a specific clue from the microbiology of cycling thread


rule of adhered growth forms for verifying cycle completion

any tank running long enough to have biofilm growth on the rocks, sand or glass is cycled. It never fails. The rock from its prior condition brings in bacteria, the assembly process brought in contamination filter bacteria / rule of handling nonsterile water + weeks stewing, fed. I’ll bet it’s cycled.


in every likelihood it will pass oxidation testing I’m confident. These things are fun to test

Cool thanks I retested Ammonia with a new test kit and it came out at 0
Sorry just remembered here is a photo of the rocks
Many thanks