Damel infected with Ich or velvet?

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My blue yellowtail has been hiding behind rocks and not taking feed for almost 3 days. When I tried to move around rocks it came out finally looking weak and lost some fins and tail. There's no visible white patch or spot on it. Not sure what could be the infection. The other Damsel is healthy but this one looks like dying soon, can someone advise what I should do? I don't have a QT
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Welcome to R2R. Sorry it's under this situation. Can you tell us a bit about your sick fish? Has it been treated with any medications previously? Do you quarantine and treat your incoming fish?
 
Welcome to r2r, are you able to get a qt setup to transfer this little guy over?
 
Welcome to R2R. Sorry it's under this situation. Can you tell us a bit about your sick fish? Has it been treated with any medications previously? Do you quarantine and treat your incoming fish?
I bought this pair last week and since I don't have a QT I just did a quick acclimation and left it in my tank. The two damsels have been chasing each other everyday but suddenly both were missing for last 3 days. The other one is active and looks good compared to this one. I want to try cupramine but not quite sure if I have to do it for the whole tank. Mine is 55 gallons tank with external sump. Right now I have 2 pairs of clown, wimple and smoke angel. Thanks
 
Can you post a closer picture of the fish? But based on your description the sick fish probably has some battle damage from the aggression of the other Damsel. They can be mean little dudes! So the injured fish probably has a bacterial infection resulting from the wounds suffered. You'll need to pull it out into a QT to help it recover. Doesn't have to be a tank, could be a Rubbermaid container. But the most gentile treatment for it would be Ruby Reef Rally. It has both antiseptic and antibiotic qualities that will help the fish's immune system to recover.
From Humblefish's Treatment Advisory:
Bacterial infections:

Symptoms - Sometimes it's self-describing: Popeye/cloudy eyes, fin & tail rot, dropsy (bloated fish), etc. But some other bacterial infections, such as furunculosis, hemorrhagic septicemia, etc., can have varying visible symptoms. Any redness or open sores/wounds on a fish should be viewed with suspicion. Also, a white film or fungus-looking growth may denote a bacterial infection. It’s important to note that in many cases a bacterial infection is usually secondary in nature to a parasitic infestation such as ich, meaning if a fish has been battling ich for a while then his immune system has been lowered. This makes infection more likely for many opportunistic, harmful bacteria.

Treatment options - Broad spectrum antibiotic medication i.e. one that treats both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial diseases. Examples of this include Furan-2, Kanamycin aka Seachem Kanaplex, Nitrofuracin Green Powder, Triple Sulfa Powder, or a combination of using both Erythromycin & Minocycline. The latter can be accomplished (albeit expensively) by using freshwater Maracyn 1 & 2 and then doubling the dosage for saltwater use. When
 
Can you post a closer picture of the fish? But based on your description the sick fish probably has some battle damage from the aggression of the other Damsel. They can be mean little dudes! So the injured fish probably has a bacterial infection resulting from the wounds suffered. You'll need to pull it out into a QT to help it recover. Doesn't have to be a tank, could be a Rubbermaid container. But the most gentile treatment for it would be Ruby Reef Rally. It has both antiseptic and antibiotic qualities that will help the fish's immune system to recover.
Yes will try that. The wimple is also picking something from Damsels skin and making it even worse. I will better remove it and put it in a container for treatment.
 
Can you post a closer picture of the fish? But based on your description the sick fish probably has some battle damage from the aggression of the other Damsel. They can be mean little dudes! So the injured fish probably has a bacterial infection resulting from the wounds suffered. You'll need to pull it out into a QT to help it recover. Doesn't have to be a tank, could be a Rubbermaid container. But the most gentile treatment for it would be Ruby Reef Rally. It has both antiseptic and antibiotic qualities that will help the fish's immune system to recover.
From Humblefish's Treatment Advisory:
Bacterial infections:

Symptoms - Sometimes it's self-describing: Popeye/cloudy eyes, fin & tail rot, dropsy (bloated fish), etc. But some other bacterial infections, such as furunculosis, hemorrhagic septicemia, etc., can have varying visible symptoms. Any redness or open sores/wounds on a fish should be viewed with suspicion. Also, a white film or fungus-looking growth may denote a bacterial infection. It’s important to note that in many cases a bacterial infection is usually secondary in nature to a parasitic infestation such as ich, meaning if a fish has been battling ich for a while then his immune system has been lowered. This makes infection more likely for many opportunistic, harmful bacteria.

Treatment options - Broad spectrum antibiotic medication i.e. one that treats both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial diseases. Examples of this include Furan-2, Kanamycin aka Seachem Kanaplex, Nitrofuracin Green Powder, Triple Sulfa Powder, or a combination of using both Erythromycin & Minocycline. The latter can be accomplished (albeit expensively) by using freshwater Maracyn 1 & 2 and then doubling the dosage for saltwater use. When
And this is the closest pic I could get.
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The wimple is also picking something from Damsels skin and making it even worse.
When they are juveniles, they are well known for picking parasites off of another fish's skin. Am I see some white dots/specs on the Damsel?
 
When they are juveniles, they are well known for picking parasites off of another fish's skin. Am I see some white dots/specs on the Damsel?
Yes, I could see a white layer but not white spots where it looks little buldged. Wondering if a short RO water dip would help?
 
A freshwater dip would rule out flukes as being a problem for the fish. How is its breathing? Normal? Rapid?
 
Areas like that should be looked at with suspicion. Note it's part of the descriptor for Bacterial Infection in the post above.
Thanks. Will keep posted after the recommended care
 
Thanks. Will keep posted after the recommended care
After 3 days of using cupramine, the Damsel looks better now but lost its colour and became pale blue now. Hope the medicine is curing the bacteria. I've attached some pics for reference, plz advise
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