Diatom Problem

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I have a 55 bow front, I put two small (2") conchs, 5 narcissus snails (smaller), 4 small hermits, and my sand bed is still covered in diatoms. Should I add another significantly larger conch, a cucumber, or nothing at all?

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Have you siphoned any out? Try manual removal.

I would most def buy more nassarius snails.

What fish is that in the last pic?
 
A diamond goby and a couple more conchs should keep the sand churned. And as said above, get more snails. You need more regular cleaners than you have. Start with maybe 10-20 or so narcis and certs.
 
O wow okay, i was way under judging the clean up crew then. The fish in the last pic is a leopard wrasse, shes been doing well for about 4 months now (i think!) maybe 3 not sure. I also have an possum wrasse and that's it for inhabitants other than 7 astrea snails and the inverts listed above. I have some coral but mostly just the two fish and that's it. I am going to go buy some more snails.

I have had the tank for almost 7 months now. I have tried siphoning it out manually (i do 5 gallons every week). and I am only feeding 1/3 of frozen cube of mysid shrimp cube every other day. I have been feeding this way for about 1.5 months now. The fish seem hungry but they seem happy and eat almost the entire portion each time. Do you think I am over feeding or do you think I just have to get more of a clean up crew?

My parameters are fine since last week (i am headed to LFS right now to get it tested again, I go weekly. My salinity is good Nitrate and phos are both zero. My calcium is fine as well. Could a lack of light be my problem at all? I am only running 2 T5 bulbs atm which is not enough ( i have LED fixture on the way later this week).
 
It looks more like cyano than diatoms to me. Does the stuff on the sand recede at night and return by the end of the day? What type of sand are you using and how deep is it?
 
Not enough light isn't the problem, I saw a tank with 2 250w metal halides and 4 t5s get a bad diatom bloom. The algae is feeding off something which is probably why your nit and phos are 0. More clean up will help but when the algae is gone, you may see some die off which can cause a bad nitrate problem because snails release some naaasty stuff when they die. I would start doing 7-10 gallon water changes weekly until it goes away. Also turn your lights on for only 8 hours a day. Do you have some sort of phosphate reactor or phosphate remover in your filter?
 
I agree it does look like cyano which usually starts off as a diatom bloom.
 
I think the red color in the pictures is misleading, it is a very light brown, ive had these blooms before btu this is the first with this kind of lingeringness. It seems to be getting lighter and lighter but it never really goes away. It does not recede or come back its basically constant, as far as I can tell. I leave when the tanks dark and come home when the lights have been on an hour. I usually run around during the week and im not home until about 7pm. I dont see a difference from when I get home to this time of night. Does that mean its cyano? Ive had a small outbreak of that before but it was a much deeper red. This is a light brown and its only on the sand which is about 2 inches deep. Its not a DSB but its enough for the leopard to sleep in.
 
Yeah I say cyano, diatoms go away at night and reappear when the lights come on.
 
im going to check and see tomorrow morning, if i flip the lights on and they are gone that means diatoms?
 
In my experience - cyano is light sensitive. It looks much better when the lights first come on in the morning (maybe even gone) and gets progressively uglier as the day goes on.

Also cyano will blow off the sand bed in "sheets" where as diatoms are dusty and won't come off in sheets but will blow off in a cloud. Diatoms also "dust" everywhere - its on the glass, rock, sand - everywhere where the current will let it settle.

I think some may be confusing diatoms with dinoflaggellets (dino) which often appears in conjunction with cyano and forms little bubbles in the mats.

Color doesn't mean too much with cyano - it comes in an assortment of colors from red to bright green. Diatoms are always a powdery golden brown (although I've heard of green - I've never seen it)

In short - if its more gooey - its cyano - dusty its diatoms.

If its diatoms - look for sources of silicates - usually in the water - top off or water change. Cut the source of silicates and they will run their course.

If its cyano - then its nutrient based - usually an inbalance in phosphate and nitrates. New thanks with low P and low N will get cyano because nothing else can get enough nitrogen to grow readily. (cyano can use dissolved N2 gas directly from the water).

Sometimes the configuration of sand beds are the source of chronic cyano problems as they can leech nutrients depending on composition, flow, pH and age.
If you suspect the sand bed, keep your pH up add flow over the sand-bed and finally if still no relief - chemi-clean may be your answer.

I don't think your feeding are too much
 
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thank you, this morning it looked as if whatever it is was completely gone....like the sand bed looks white. Im confused all around haha, i think im going to wait a little, use RO/DI for top off from now on (ive been using tap, maybe my source of silicates) and see what happens.
 

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